Tue enough, although I must say I had no problems plugging Spring in using the 
Spring integration jar. Very quick and painless.

I think that use of Hivemind is required when one needs to extend or enhance 
or add new functionality to Tapestry itself. Certainly one could also use 
Hivemind as a configuration engine for other non-Tapestry services, but it 
isn't actually required for that purpose.

I don't mind Hivemind as an IoC container, but I have found it more difficult 
to grok than Spring.

-Scott

On Sunday 25 June 2006 11:34, James Carman wrote:
> That being said, Scott, it *is* much easier to "plug in" to Tapestry using
> HiveMind, since Tapestry itself is wired together using HiveMind.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 3 to 4.1 to 5
>
> I'm guessing you mean Hivemind, not Hibernate.
>
> Hibernate is an ORM that is completely independant of Tapestry. Some users
> (like myself) use it and thus seek out (or develop) solutions that
> integrate the two (eg. tapernate, honeycomb, cognition). You might see talk
> about that on the mail;ing list but unless you intend to use Hibernate for
> your database persistence then you don't need to worry about it.
>
> Hivemind is a configuration engine that Tapestry is built on. Whether it is
> used by any other project doesn't matter. You are not constrained to use it
> if you don't want - use Spring, use Picocontainer, use your home-grown
> solution if you want.
>
> regards,
> Scott
>

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