Hi, On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: > On 10/19/2017 02:38 PM, Alex wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Alex <mysqlstud...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Am 19.10.2017 um 16:50 schrieb Alex: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My bayes is trained such that most marketing emails are bayes99. I've >>>>> also now removed mcsv.net from the whitelist and see it resulted in 70 >>>>> messages from mcsv.net being caught today, all of which were from >>>>> marketing@ or news@ or similar accounts from sites like >>>>> news@firma.agency >>>> >>>> >>>> well, your users will be grateful when you use a biased bayes and reject >>>> their subscribed newsletters - "bayes is trained such that most >>>> marketing >>>> emails are bayes99" is idiotic - the only question for traing is SPAM OR >>>> NOT >>>> SPAM and if you are not 100% sure don#t train a sample at all >>> >>> >>> And yet, it would have stopped the email in question. It also relies >>> on other ham rules to subtract points or trusted senders to be >>> whitelisted. I'm also not convinced all of these are opt-in in the >>> first place. >> >> >> Third day, third set of false-negatives (20 this time) whitelisted >> through mailchimp >> >> https://pastebin.com/6vkxNXxX >> >> I had removed the mcsv.net but forgot mcdlv.net. It's still not being >> tagged properly without the whitelisting. >> > > Are all of the recipients the same for the past 3 sets of junk mail? > > Are you reporting these to the mailchimp abuse link? I have generally had > good results with the major mass marketers like Mailchimp handling their > rogue customers and blocking the account. If you report this, then it helps > all of us. Blocking things locally only helps your recipients. > > You can also safely unsubscribe those senders and provide feedback to > Mailchimp that you never subscribed to that email. Enough strikes will get > that sender blocked by Mailchimp.
Yes, as I wrote in a previous message, I've reported all of these to mailchimp. Nonetheless, it's not good enough. These are separate users involved. My users (admins, support people) only see it as receiving multiple similar spams over three days and wonder why we're unable to stop them. Whitelisting mailchimp is a bad idea. And none of this helps to stop these messages that still aren't currently being blocked by spamassassin proper.
