Am 04.11.2016 um 11:33 schrieb Marc Stürmer: > Am 2016-11-03 15:34, schrieb MHielder: > >> Ahhhh that old lie, that one has to pay to be removed again? Really? >> Did it prevent people using UCEPROTECT within the last 15 years? >> No, it didn't. The guys telling lies in the public just made fools out >> of themselves. >> The fact that every person interested in UCEPROTECT can go to the >> website and read the removal policies should point out that delisting >> will happen automatically for free after 7 days without spam. > > Let me put it this way: you guy(s) for sure prefer to stay anonymous in > the shadows though you are providing a service to the interested public. > You took great effort and energy over all those years into it to achieve > this goal. > > When someone of UCE Protect is writing emails or comments on web sites > one can only be sure of one thing: the names being used are most likely > fake names and nothing more. > > Every other major competitor I know has a policy for immediate delisting > requests without charge and implemented it centuries ago. > > You on the other hand have the business model of telling people that > immediate delistings in your lists come with a fee, at the moment it is > 97€, the amount seems to vary over time (maximum I do recall was 150€), > otherwise you will ignore the request and they can wait then the default > time period for automatic deletion out of your list. > > And the best thing is if somebody pays you the money they don't even > know who they are paying for. > > So you are for sure quite much different than the rest, let's say > Spamhaus. Your service comes around with a very big attitude you got and > this attitude is clearly visible on your own web site. > > Unusual delisting rules for immediate erasure combined with the high > delisting fee, anonymous operators of the service and quite a much big > attitude shown everywhere then sums up to the reputation you earned in > many places over the years, may it be good or bad.
I have no idea why there is a discussion about the business model of UCEPROTECT. If you don't like them, don't use their services. It is really that easy. Every mail server administrator that uses a blacklist has to keep in mind that he gives the decision about good or bad ips/mails/whatever to a third, mostly unknown, person. I trust _none_ of them. Do you know the people of any other blacklist? Who assures you that there is not a crazy monkey in the background doing some strange stuff with the listings? Nobody. -- Holger
