So, it is not possible to simplify the process of managing an email server via an easy-to-use software user interface?
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > no! > > the idea of cpanel, webmin and what not is trying to provide a reduced and > limited interface for users with no clue and give them the felling they have > some clue what they are doing > > if you rely on capnel you better maintain no public server at all, take money > and pay somebody who knows what he is doing > > and NO - that's not unfriendly, it's just the truth, maintaining mailservices > is a FULLTIME-JOB and that won't change in the near future > > Am 13.10.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Larry Goldman: >> The _idea_ of CPanel is a good one: a low-cost, do-it-all solution which a >> broader range of tech-savvy users can manage. It seems that the current >> GoDaddy/CPanel configuration I’m using is obviously not up to the task of >> distinguishing SPAM in today’s world. >> >> If there is not an easy fix within their black box, I’ll consider hosting my >> own email on OS X Server: full apache, full SA. >> >>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 13.10.2015 um 21:02 schrieb Larry Goldman: >>>> I’ve seen CPanel hosted on several other ISPs. It would be quite >>>> unfortunate (for them and for their users) if their email product could >>>> not reliably catch spam. >>> >>> and i have seen so much shit from ISP's long ago that i started in 2005 to >>> host and implement anything we need on own infrastrcuture with own >>> deployments and finally even replaced a spamfilter-applicance from a >>> million-dollar-company specialized for spamfiltering with own solutions >>> >>> they all sell SpamAssassin and other free components wrapped in layers over >>> layers (cPanel is one of the definite crap in that layers) and finally sell >>> shit for money >>> >>> do it yourself or live with the results >>> >>> what you can't expect is serious help on upstream mailing lists fro SA >>> burried inside a dozen of crap layers likely nobody on that planet knows >>> how thinhgs are realy configured >>> >>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 13.10.2015 um 20:40 schrieb Larry Goldman: >>>>>> It seems that CPanel is an independent product that GoDaddy serves. It >>>>>> may be that the version of CPanel in use is not using up-to-date SA, >>>>>> which is a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I determine which version of SA is being used, without terminal >>>>>> access? >>>>> >>>>> you can't, you have only a limited blackbox and get what you pay for - >>>>> sorry - invest time and money or live with what you get >
