On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Noel Butler wrote:



On 01/12/2014 04:52, John Hardin wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 30.11.2014 um 05:39 schrieb John Hardin: On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald 
wrote: if that rule can't work in most environments and not made conditionally 
it has to be dropped at all because it has more drawbacks than benefits But 
this effectively means we cannot add new features to SA conditionals because 
they might do this to older installs
which new features?

The perl version check in a conditional.

Trunk SA supports doing that now. But if actually *using* that feature,
even once it's officially released, results in unacceptable warnings in
older SA installs, then at what point can the new feature *actually be
used*?

You do that with new x.MAJOR.0 release, where you can mandate minimum
system requirements, currently this stunt has caused far more harm than
what its currently worth and should be rolled back.

It has been. It's waiting for the normal masscheck process to generate a new rules update.

You've been around a long long time John, so I know your not going to suggest people with production servers run a version from trunk just to satisfy a small few.

I'm not, and wasn't. I underestimated the impact of the warning, I didn't realize it would be emitted in cron logs the way it was. I was just looking at the SA log.

Now that we do have a conditional test that does successfully bypass the check of the perl_version pseudo-variable, then we can use this check without causing earlier SA releases heartburn. But not until that capability is officially released.

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