On 11/30/2014 11:06 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2014-11-30 10:48, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


On 11/29/2014 8:39 PM, John Hardin wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 29.11.2014 um 23:27 schrieb John Hardin:

However, it is a *warning*, not a fatal error. And it's better than
the
rule killing lint and blocking sa-update completely on an install that
uses an older perl

don't get me wrong but this *warning* triggers cron mails and spits
messages in case of every SA related command - that's unacceptable and
in fact worser than without that check

before *only* outdated perl versions where affected, now it hits also
recent Fedora setups working before without any warning and with that
rule included

As I said, I underestimated the reaction to doing that.

if that rule can't work in most environments and not made
conditionally it has to be dropped at all because it has more
drawbacks than benefits

It has already been commented out in my sandbox.

But this effectively means we cannot add new features to SA conditionals
because they might do this to older installs.


No, just release patches to the older versions to Conf.pm and Parser.pm

These are not COMPILED modules so it is easy to patch them.

The people who even notice the warnings are going to be competent enough
to run patch, and for the people who are running SpamAssassin who aren't
competent enough to be able to do that, I doubt they will be noticing
log entries.

Ted

Put a sock in it, Ted. For some, perhaps you, sysadmin is a hobby. For
others it is a necessary pain in the ass.

Sysadmining is a joy to me.  It also happens to be one I am paid to do.

If it's a pain in the ass for you - I pity you. Your stuck in the wrong job.

Going off distro for some
"patches" is precisely what we wish to avoid with these long term
professional distros.

I think you mean what "I" wish to avoid.

And you're telling US that we have to risk the
stability of the system? "Brown vaguely stinky soft spludgy material
such as emanates from the South end of a North facing fertile male bovine."


No I am telling you to use your head for something other than a place to
hang your hat. Read the patches. Decide if they are significant enough to risk the stability of the system. If they are then don't apply them.

I have. They aren't. I applied them. As did many others on the thread I posted, none of whom reported any ill effects.

As I said before, I really, really pity you and I'm sorry you feel so trapped in your job. Honestly, there really is a better way to live. Take up painting, music, whatever. Do what you love. Do it well and people will pay you for it. And don't look back.

Ted

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