Am 31.08.2014 um 02:15 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt:
> Yes, it does work great when you have the bayes filter turned on and you take 
> the time to feed it.  And that means
> you have to feed the
> learner both ham and spam and setup reliable sources for those.
> 
> Unfortunately if Bayes is not turned on, it does not catch more than
> around 60-70% of spam.  As a Spamassassin user & server admin, I would
> really like to see that improve.

60-70% without training is great

keep in mind that the first 90% of incoming is eaten by RBL's
and the 60% are from the remaining 10% at all :-)

i think it's impossible to improve that much "out-of-the-box" because
that would make it to sensitive while the bayes has the ham side of
your communication too for decisions

i am coming from a commercial device trying to block 100% and there
it ends in zero-hour-blocklists with domains even if they are only
linked on the youtube page of the blocked facebook notification

so i am glad that i have to do soem training by myself instead fear
of false positives which do much more harm

> On 8/30/2014 2:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> after two days running SA for the first two test-domains with a
>> well trained bayes for the global milter-user: impressive!
>>
>> the few crap making it through poscreen RBL scroing is detected
>>
>> 0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version
>> 0.000          0       1389          0  non-token data: nspam
>> 0.000          0       1350          0  non-token data: nham
>> 0.000          0     257152          0  non-token data: ntokens
>>
>> Aug 30 23:34:19 localhost spamd[4882]: spamd: identified spam (8.9/4.5) for 
>> sa-milt:189 in 0.6 seconds, 2454 bytes.
>> Aug 30 23:34:19 localhost spamd[4882]: spamd: result: Y 8 -
>> BAYES_80,CUST_DNSBL_15,CUST_DNSWL_2,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HTML_MESSAGE,MALFORMED_FREEMAIL,MISSING_HEADERS,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS
>>
>> scantime=0.6,size=2454,user=sa-milt,uid=189,required_score=4.5,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=51671,mid=<[email protected]>,bayes=0.842503,autolearn=disabled
>>
>> Aug 30 23:34:19 localhost postfix/cleanup[6195]: 3hlrXp5S3dz1w: 
>> milter-reject: END-OF-MESSAGE from
>> snt004-omc1s37.hotmail.com[65.55.90.48]: 5.7.1 Blocked by SpamAssassin; 
>> from=<[email protected]>  to=<***>

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