Hi,
we've one "collecting" smtp server (without SA), one antispam server (SA and this server sends outgoing email1) and one email server (cyrus imap server). We've about 3000 active email users - here is a fast picture
http://www.ajetaci.cz/skola/epi/zumpa/rychle_zapojeni_firewall_antispam_email.png

About filtering email - when the scanned email has SPF, Domainkeys or DKIM =="pass", I've some rules with SCORE "-10" or so, so the email is trustworthy. Including ours. But - yahoo, google etc. are freemails, abused for spamming - let the spamcop live :)

Cituji Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>:

On 04.04.13 13:03, Josef Karliak wrote:
antispam server is in dmz, emails are sent to antispam server thru postfix on firewall. The firewall is for incoming emails from local network and from internet. Firewall send emails to antispam server. This server serves as an outgoing server too. I email isn't outgoing to the internet, this server send the email to another server - email server:

(incoming SMTP server)->(DMZ antispam server+outgoing)->(DMZ email server for our users)
LAN /       \NET

Well I'm completely lost here, how many mail servers do you have?
How do messages come from the internet to your network and vice versa?
Do your servers communicate with your antispam server by spamd protocol or
via SMTP?

SA has defined an internal network, so emails from inside are trustworthy.

Defining network as trusted and/or internal in SA does NOT mean that mail
will not be marked as spam.  Trusted network only means that hosts will be
trusted not to fake Received: headers, which is later used in decising
whether to scan blacklists for server IPs.

And I use DKIM for signing internal emails (firewall signs all emails from local and dmz zone), so it is not possible to filter email as a spam from a local or dmz zone.

the only way to avoid SA from scanning mail is not to pass the mail through
SA.  If you pass the mail through SA, it will be scanned and possibly marked
as spam.

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Ma domena pouziva zabezpeceni a kontrolu SPF (www.openspf.org) a
DomainKeys/DKIM (with ADSP) . Pokud mate problemy s dorucenim emailu,
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My domain use SPF (www.openspf.org) and DomainKeys/DKIM (with ADSP)
policy and check. If you've problem with sending emails to me, start
using email origin methods mentioned above. Thank you.

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