On 02/14, Jonas Eckerman wrote:
> * I think you should follow conventions in DNS naming, using an  
> underscore to signify that the DNS record is a "special" type of record.  
> This is quite common.

I didn't like this idea, but I have realized it's the right thing to do.

Now should I use _mtx, or MTAMark style _smtp._srv?

  40.152.71.64._mtx.panic.chaosreigns.com
  40.152.71.64._smtp._srv.panic.chaosreigns.com

_mtx is sexier - shorter.

_smtp._srv is potentially useful for more things, but I can't think of
anything.  Maybe google wave.  6 characters longer.  And I like that "mtx"
explicitly indicates "transmitting", although not an extremely important
distinction.  Other protocols can create their own subdomain.



On 02/14, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:
> Yeah.  I'm thinking of using the 4th octet to indicate participation, and
> the third octet to indicate delegation.

I screwed that up.

Not participating is functionally identical to "neutral".

4th octet: 

0 Neutral: Should not be penalized anymore than non-participating domains.
1 SoftFail: Subject to further scrutiny (greylisting, SA +1).
2 HardFail: Reject.

The existing two scores:
Pass: Obvious.
Fail: Includes all of the other results: Neutral, SoftFail, and HardFail.

3rd octet indicates delegation of 4th octet value to subdomains:
0 Applies to this domain and all subdomains.
1 Applies to this domain, ask subdomains if they're participating.


Also, I'm now less worried about domain boundaries.  Worst case, you could
check for the _mtx subdomain at the 3rd and 4th level
(_mtx.chaosreigns.com, _mtx.state.nh.us, respectively).  Are there any
cases where you need to check the 5th?  And you could use a list of known
domains to skip some guessing.

So:
    _participant._mtx.chaosreigns.com. IN A 127.0.0.2

Means HardFail anything from chaosreigns.com and any subdomain that doesn't
have an MTX record.

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