jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > You guys are doing something wrong. Maybe you think that every > country is like the USA or something. You blew it. Your rules are > wrong. > > MM> It may not be your fault you're using an ISP which is known to > MM> generate spam [...] you need to complain to the ISP. > > at the first chance my mail gets, it leaves those wires and heads > for the smarthost in the USA in order to cleanse its sins of having > come from an unfamiliar country.
So you acknowledge that it's a problem and try to work around it. Proper use of that US-based smarthost should actually remove this problem entirely (since all of the dynamic-rDNS detectors examine only the last-external relay, which should be that smarthost). However, as you noted earlier: > It's all because > http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_header1.cf > header SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b Received =~ > /\bdynamic.hinet\.(?:com|net|org|info)/ > describe SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b Email passed through apparent spammer domain > score SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b 1.666 This rule is poorly written as it does not limit its examination to the last external relay. Were SARE accepting revisions (and assuming I've read the intent right), it should be reworked so as to be defined as (be wary of mail agent rewrapping): header SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b X-Spam-Relays-External =~ /&[^\]]+ rdns=[^ ]{0,25}\bdynamic.hinet\.(?:com|net|org|info)(?:\.tw)? / The above revision to the rule would ensure that anybody using a smarthost to leave the Hinet network, or (almost certainly) using the SMTP hosts provided by Hinet. The MX record for hinet.net has proper FCrDNS as netnews.hinet.net, which does not trigger my update to the rule, so presumably neither does the SMTP server they provide (which may be the same). ... though as you noted, you're not using this SMTP server (which wouldn't have helped due to the flawed implementation). > once you are a Negro you are always a Negro or something. Please > fix your rules. You are demanding one use certain physical carriers > irrespective of ISP. That kind of language will not be tolerated. Please look it up to read just how offensive it actually is; this goes beyond your choice of words to the entirety of your sentence, whose harshness harkens a statement of oppression and segregation that battle the very core of civil rights. You also appear to be lumping all Americans into that statement and all users on these lists into "Americans," further promoting your ignorance. Yes, we are prejudiced against dynamic-looking rDNS entries. The rules involved (at the SpamAssassin project as I cannot speak to the SARE rules) are all carefully written so as to ensure that only direct mail-to-mx messages trigger them. If you fall into that category (you do not, though you did at one point), the only solution is to request your ISP change your IP's PTR record (rDNS). The issue at heart is a bug in the SARE rule SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b. I have proposed a fix. The ball is in SARE's court. Let's finish this with a civil tongue.
