Le lundi 10 août 2009 19:15:15, Cedric Knight a écrit :
> Stefan wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 9. August 2009 07:36:54 schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
> >> Hi SAs,
> >>
> >> Well, after reading this link
> >> http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/sa-learn.html I'm still
> >> looking for an easy-way to let my mortal users to train our antispam.  I
> >> was thinking a mailbox such as  h...@antispamserver and
> >> s...@antispamserver to let users to forward their false positivos or
> >> their false netgatives. In isde each box (ham or spam), of course a
> >> procmail with sa-learn input will be forwarded.
> >>
> >> My doubts are nexts:
> >> 1. Will forwarded mails be usefull for training, I mean if spam was:
> >> From: spa...@example.net    To: u...@mydomain,   when forwarding it will
> >> be From: mu...@mydomain To: s...@antispamserver.   Change of this and
> >> forwarding (getting rid of headers because mail-clients) wont change
> >> learning?
> >
> > You have to forward the message as an attachment un unpack it after
> > receiving. Have a look at:
> > https://po2.uni-stuttgart.de/~rusjako/sal-wrapper
>
> Yes, I find this approach works well.  It's the simplest way for me to
> train Bayes, and most users can cope with it, providing they're not
> using Outlook 2003/XP which can't forward as an attachment.  But
> Thunderbird, Outlook Express, Squirrelmail and Pine all can easily.
> It's not as simple as a 'This Is Spam' button perhaps, and that's a
> *good* thing.  Requiring a little bit of thought stops people using it
> as an alternative to the delete key for 'OK, perhaps I did subscribe to
> this but I don't want it now'.
>
> My script is very similar to sal-wrapper, using Postfix
> check_recipient_access to ensure only authenticated users can send to
> the reporting address; triggered from procmail; using MIME::Parser to
> extract (possibly multiple) message/rf822 attachments; feed through
> sa-learn --ham or spamassassin -r as appropriate and send an
> acknowledgement back to the user, to remind them to also send
> spam/non-spam to the corresponding address and correct any mistakes.
>
> One thing I notice from sal-wrapper however is that it pipes the header
> and body to sa-learn without passing a file as parameter.  I found that
> although sa-learn didn't complain, this didn't work at all well, and
> quite short ham messages were scoring BAYES_99.  You can pipe to
> spamassassin -r just like you can to spamassassin in any other mode, but
> I think if you pipe to sa-learn, you need to do it as
>    sa-learn --ham -
>
> with the '-' as parameter, so it reads the standard input.
> Alternatively feed it a temporary message file.  Or am I misreading
> something?
>
> CK
Yes but problem is that 99% of users are about using some kind of outlook

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