On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 17:37 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote:
> LuKreme said the following on 7/31/09 3:27 PM:
> >> Richard -- please watch your language.   This is a public mailing
> >> list, and offensive language here is inappropriate.
> >
> > I dunno, 'gay' isn't that offensive.
> >
> >
> 
> Gay is *not* a synonym for stupid.
> 
> I do take offense to the term being used in that manner.
> 
> --Glenn
> 
I find it deeply offensive that the word 'gay' is used as a synonym for
homosexual in an attempt to stop people from using 'queer' - but hey
'gays' are not the only ones with opinions that 'matter'.

Gay **is** a synonym for 'stupid' (silly) as far as I am concerned. It's
original meaning of 'carefree','happy','silly' and 'showy' are clearly
being used with sarcasm. The fact is 'queers' hijacked the word as per
this;

"— USAGE Gay is now a standard term for ‘homosexual’, and is the term
preferred by homosexual men to describe themselves. As a result, it is
now very difficult to use gay in its earlier meanings ‘carefree’ or
‘bright and showy’ without arousing a sense of double entendre. Gay in
its modern sense typically refers to men, lesbian being the standard
term for homosexual women."
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/gay?view=uk

So please *quit* with the sympathetic pink preaching and learn what the
word actually means. Just because it "is the term preferred by
homosexual men to describe themselves" does not mean a minority have the
right to slate people who use the word properly.

With regards to the dig about Barracuda - this *WAS* OT. There were some
benchmark tests discussed here that were impressive. My experience of SA
in daily production is on Barracuda Appliances that ****STRUGGLE**** to
push 6-8 messages a second through, so it was relevant as comparison.
The wording could have been chosen with more care and I apologise to
Christians or dog lovers who found the use of the messiah or female form
offensive. However, the use of gay in a sarcastic context clearly fits
with the original origin of the word, not by that section of the society
who have stolen it and made it OT and OM. For that I make ***NO***
apology. I appreciate that using 'gay' in it's real meaning may hurt the
feelings of some 'homosexuals' but as I have to respect their choices
and views, they should show *me* the same respect for *my* views and
choices. You may not like who I am and what I do, I may not like who you
are and what you do.

Now do we need to continue this or throw little tin God banning threats
around more or can we just *get along* knowing we are all different but
frequenting this list for Spamassassin information ?



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