**head-note: I know youve not mentioned it to me, but i'll remove your address only once more, if you got a bitch about any further replies that will be CC'd to you, bitch to apache org for not having reply-to set.
I'm sick of deleting them :)

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 28.07.09 12:12, Res wrote:
Actually, if he is a connection customer of foobar.com, he should use
foobar.coms SMTP server as his smarthost, as they will allow their

do you mean "they will only allow" ?

any ISP that relays for non customers, needs a kicking. (hosting excluded)

customers to relay through them, that way most servers will only care
about mail.foobar.com

If he sends mail with gmail.com address, he should use gmail's SMTP servers
no matter which ISP he's connecting through.

Why? Thats a dangerous recommendation, the number of times googles mail servers get periodically blocked is funny. Maybe he wants replies there. and uses gmails pop but wants to send his replies without using them, hes perfectly entitled to do so. He might also only be using gmail to post to this list, since he (someone) cant from their original connection.


Yes, some ISPs deny connections to port 25, but that's why there's
'submission' service on port 587 where authentication should be required so
any problem with sending spam directly to recipients is avoided.

This is popular in *some* countries, dont assume its a universal thing, because it aint. Most ISP's worth their salt have dedicated customer outbound mail servers, that only accept from their own, if they dont, they are too smaller operation to be worried about.


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Res

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