I've been using them for years. We do a lot of email (5 mail servers) as 
an ISP.

I sometimes get network test access for free, for others I have paid. 
It's either a pay big or pay nothing, with no middle ground 
unfortunately. Many of these, I run my own dns servers and use rsync to 
replicate their data on virtual machines separate from my mailservers. 
There is a big investment in bandwidth to establist a blocklist if you 
want it to be useful and popular. There is also a technical hurdle to 
the people running the mail servers to utilize systems for rsyncing, 
running third party nameserver software, bind integration, etc... It's 
very rigid, hierarchiel, manual patchwork. Most of these systems are not 
using any sort of secure DNS either.

I wouldn't mind running a DNS or rsync server for some of these lists, 
to give back to the community, but everyone seems to do it differently 
or have different qualifications or credit for such tasks. It's just 
easier to not even suggest it.

I suspect network tests are a popular and growing portion of the future 
of antispam. I'm not a coder, I'm a CS dropout, so I can't do this 
myself. It's more of a vision than a concrete software product, so hear 
me out and discuss this.

Integrate some sort of private purpose p2p system with spamassassin. All 
the *bl network test managers could constantly "seed" the p2p system 
with up to date data as they create it. The data could have a lifetime 
like DNS data does. The SA p2p module/daemon would gather the data for 
the *bl systems one is subscribed to and make it available for local or 
local network spamd tests. It could also make it available to other SA 
p2p system via the p2p network.

Thus someone could have a major and popular *bl and not have to have the 
huge bandwidth and management needs some of the bigger semi-commercial 
blocklists certainly have.

A large user or ISP with excellent bandwidth and servers could also be 
contributing bandwidth and server capacity to the SA p2p *bl system with 
minimal technical hoops. They could also scale big without causing any 
load issues for the creators of the *bls.

SA-updates could also be distributed via the system.

As an ISP, I've generally been wary of p2p as it is so inefficient to 
distribute data from the far reaches of the network to the other far 
reaches of the network instead of a layout focused on a high capacity 
core. However for such a project, it would likely be primarily well 
connected servers, and p2p system could be efficient and practical.


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