John Hardin <jhar...@impsec.org> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote: > >>> This would be an entirely different application, not SA, wouldn't it? >> >> It can be developed using the same "spam score" logic, based subset of >> all tests requiring only the subset of "final data" available during >> "classic run". > > So in other words something like SMTP-time DNSBL tests that score > points towards rejection rather than being pass/fail? That sounds like > a good idea. > >> I do think that promoting tools that encourage postmaster to care very >> much about mail server (IP address) reputation can make real difference >> e.g. caring to be above reputation "none" in DNSWL to avoid grey-listing. > > Agreed. But, performing major redesign of SA to achieve this pre-RCPT > is going to be a tough sell. > >>> Well, this probably could be done in SA using a multi-level protocol >>> capable of returning values at different stages. However, this seems >>> perfectly suited for a lightweight tool, rather than a hog that is >>> designed to scan and process entire messages. :) >> >> During initial tests/deployment *much* simpler implementation can be >> used with recommended action based on spam score: >> >> It would require redesign of 50_scores.cf structure. >> e.g. instead of >> score RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI 0 -8 0 -8 >> something like that >> # N - Network, B - Bayes, nX - no X, R - "RCPT TO:" >> score RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI nNnB=0 NnB=-8 nNB=0 NB=-8 R=-8 >> or shorter >> score RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI N=-8 R=-8 > > Why would SA be served by _major_ modifications like this, rather than > writing a new milter that focuses on determining the reputation of an > IP? Are you really willing to break _all_ existing SA installations > for this? > > Please don't try to make SA a "do everything" tool, you'll likely > weaken what it does an outstanding job of today.
0) Such _major_ modification means introducing it in next _major_ spamassassin release unless it can be made "downward compatible" e.g. by using *separate* "score file" for at "RCPT TO:" tests. Where there's a Will, there's a way 1) I want milter(s) (MIMEDefang's filtering script in perl) to use spamassassin in such role. I personally prefer such tools from teams with well established "maintenance reputation". I also believe that SA "score tuning methodology" would fit very well too. 2) Anyway limiting scores to *only* four cases *SHOULD NOT* "stay forever". -- [pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu "All the people are so happy now, their heads are caving in. I'm glad they are a snowman with protective rubber skin" -- They Might Be Giants
