Am 2008-10-15 17:53:01, schrieb mouss:
> if it's a big ISP, they simply won't care.

FullACK.  You can only save ANY spam you get from  them,  then  write  a
letter and ask for damages.  If they do not stop  within  e.g.  14 days,
you DoS them and let them know that it was YOU.

If they now sue you, you present your Invoice with all  preuve  and  you
win.  --  At least in France and Germany.

Please note, that currently I can not more work,  since  all  of  my  17
business accounts are DoS'ed  I have damages of more then 1000 Euro/day.

> Most phishes I see here come via orange.fr. Last time I contacted them
> (after a backscatter storm), I got a mail telling me how to install
> Norton AV. sigh. well, now at least they don't scatter (apparently, they
> discard if mail is undeliverable, as I've seen some orange customers
> complain about lost mail! sigh^2).

How many do you get?

I have around 18.000 maybe and I am sueing  the  customers  of  "Orange"
which works quiet well, because you can compare the Computer with a  car
which had no "TÜV" (german techical control) and you mad an accident.

You are coupable and must pay for damages...

I have done this now several times with success in Germany and France

> oh no. if "they" hear you, we'll have as much snail mail spam and phone
> spam! BTW I do get a lot more phone spam now.

I get SMS spam daily...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    24V Electronic Engineer
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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