Matt Kettler wrote:
There's nothing in trusted networks, I don't trust anything...

Jo, that's impossible in spamassasin. You cannot have an empty trust, it doesn't make any logical sense, and would cause spamassassin to fail miserably.

I should rather have said trust is only localhost.

If you don't declare a trusted_networks, SA will auto-guess for you. (And the auto-guesser is notorious for failing if your MX is NAT mapped)

And please, understand that "trust" here means "trusted to never forge a received header" not "trusted to never relay any spam".

I know this.

In spamassassin, under trusting is BAD. It is just as bad as over-trusting. SA needs at least one trustworthy received header to work with.

How and why? Are you saying I *must* have a 2nd-level MX host for SA to work? That's not my experience, and 2-layer relays are backscatter sources. Milter from the local MTA works just fine.

Also, to work properly, SA needs to be able to determine what is a part of your network, and what isn't. Unless you declare internal_networks separately, it bases internal vs external on the trust.

There is no network. There is only a single host. I don't control any other host on the subnet.

 > "trust no-one" is NOT a valid option, and would actually result in the
problem you're suffering from. After all, if no headers are trusted, all email comes from no server, so SA would never be able to tell the difference between an email you really sent, vs a forgery from the outside.

This statement parses as nonsense. SA can't parse an e-mail because it doesn't trust the source? Isn't that all e-mail?

If your trust path is working properly, SA knows the difference. If it's not working, you get a broken AWL, broken RBLs, broken ALL_TRUSTED, and dozens of other broken things.

Okay, seriously I think you're both underestimating my understanding of this and further confusing the matter by making all sorts of unclear claims that don't reflect in reality.

I get trust paths. This issue I reported is not related to trust paths. It's not a broken trust path problem. The e-mail came from an untrusted source, but was given a negative AWL score based on the sender name. That has nothing to do with trust.

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