We should have an out going spam filter functional by July 2007
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hamann.w wrote:
> 
> Ian Eiloart wrote
> 
>>> 
>>> --On 26 December 2006 05:53:12 +0000 Monty Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Hello, list.
>>> >
>>> > I have used well SA with procmail well against incoming mail.
>>> > But there are lots of outgoing spam-mails using web programs or using
>>> > sendmail at my server.
>>> > (There are several domains are hosted at the server.)
>>> >  So is there any program like spamassassin which can filter against
>>> > outgoing spam mail?
>>> > or any program which can limit sending spam-mail?
>>> >
>>> > Please recommend any for me..
>>> >
>>> > my system is linux and sendmail.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> Don't use spamassassin for this. That's intended for use when you can't 
>>> police the sender.
>>> 
>>> First, use a firewall to force web applications to use your mail server, 
>>> and not connect directly to remote mail servers. Otherwise, you can't
>>> know 
>>> that you're even seeing all the email.
> 
> while I basically agree with you - and this measure will stop
> misconfigured web applications
> - there may be a need for direct connect.
> I am running an email verifier on a shopping website that tries to verify
> email addresses
> before customers submit their orders. Before that, I had almost 1% failed
> email addresses
> (which would not receive order confirmation, shipping confirmation, ...)
>>> 
>>> Then, require that web applications use a username and password to
>>> connect 
>>> to your host. The PHP class PHPMailer, for example, can do this. That
>>> way 
>>> you can trace offenders by checking the sender address.
>>> 
> 
> The average hosting client will not like to rewrite somebody else's mail
> script from mail() to
> something else. With qmail, defining QMAILHOST as the domain name in the
> apache config
> ensures that scripts calling mail() use a valid sender
> I have seen abuse where a mail sending php script was placed into /tmp
> area and executed.
> Mails generated from such script would originate from an admin or role
> account, so checking
> that such mails only go to specific recipients (and only mails from a
> valid customer domain
> are allowed outside) would create an additional line of defense
> 
>>> Require that sender addresses are not spoofed. That way the real sender 
>>> (well, the web application owner) can be held to account for
>>> misdemeanours.
>>> 
>>> Arrange that copies of emails are sent to you (and maybe the application 
>>> owner), perhaps stripped of the body, or at least notifications. That
>>> way, 
>>> you can get early alerts of abuse. You might want to rate-limit the
>>> sending 
>>> of email.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Ian Eiloart
>>> IT Services, University of Sussex
>>> 
> 
> One additional suggestion: do not offer your hosting clients any
> preconfigured script that
> allows to specify the recipient via the web form. Rather provide a
> template where they will
> hardcode the recipient in the script
> 
> Wolfgang Hamann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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