Rick Macdougall wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
I don't understand why you think SAV is a louse anti-forgery tool. It
forces spammers to have to find real email addresses to forge.
Domains that I host are rarely spoofed because when other hosts use
SAV I welcome that and verify which email addresses are bad and the
spam is rejected at connect time. When I use SAV I don't have to run
those messages through spam assassin because I already know they are
spam. So don't tell me that it doesn't work because I know for a fact
that it does.
I WANT people to verify against my servers. I WELCOME it because
spammers blacklist ME.
As to people blacklisting me - I am quite capable of effectively
evening the score. Those who black list me are a buch of cowards who
hide and create anonymous black lists to try to bully people into
what they want us to do. But these people have left a trail that I'm
reconstructing and I'm going to out them and it's going to be a very
public outing. So I don't just complain when I get blacklisted. I fix
the problem.
I maintain various mail servers for ISP's and private companies around
the world. Probably 2-3 million users in total. If your server is
using SAV against any of our servers in excess of 500 or so invalid
recipients per day, you are most likely on our internal blacklist.
We don't know if you are using SAV, TMDA or are just a clueless admin
who bounces after accepting. Seeing as how we get over a million
bounces after accepting from various clueless admins around the globe
you might see how were adverse to any type of sender verification.
You might welcome it but we can't tell the difference. If you're
servers end up on blacklists because of it, don't complain. You made
your own bed and now you have to lay in it.
Regards,
Rick
I wouldn't be on your black list unless you manually added me to it.