Not to mention that the mail queues are backing up for over half an hour
because of all the spam in the first place :-p

Phil
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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: uxbod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 21 November 2006 15:13
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Greylisting
> 
> Hmmm, customers not willing to wait 5-10 mins for a email ? 
> Would prefer to receive more SPAM instead, especially for a 
> protocol that does not guarantee delivery ;)  Urgent Items = 
> Use the phone or fax
> 
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:02:34 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm afraid you're right on this one.
> > 
> > Of course the spammers read this very list - and they have 
> already started
> > to implement "anti greylisting" meassures...
> > 
> > It's just a matter of time before they see too little 
> success rate when
> > they
> > read the bot stats and start to circumvent greylisting too :(
> > 
> > I have yet to try greylisting on a real production system. 
> I am concerned
> > about the 5-15 mins. delay because we have some sensitive 
> customers that
> > are
> > already on their toes. But with the right set of arguments 
> I'm sure I can
> > convince even the "worst" customer that greylisting is a 
> good thing...
> > still.
> > 
> > I wonder how many years it will take before some 
> organization steps up and
> > lead the way to new SMTP standards. My company has gone 
> from 1 to 4 mail
> > server over the past 6 months. I reckon it's about time 
> protocols adapt to
> > the world today :)
> > 
> >  - Nicolai
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 21. november 2006 01:12
> > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Greylisting
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday 20 November 2006 15:08, Rick Macdougall wrote:
> >> It's possible that they could send it all twice but I've 
> never seen 
> >> it.
> >>   Remember that some unbelievable number of infected 
> Windows clients
> > are
> >> the main source of spam and it would just be too much 
> trouble for the
> >> spammer to try every address twice after a 15 minute interval.
> > 
> > Oh come on!  It costs the spammer NOTHING to make that 
> adjustment to his
> > bot
> > net.  Its someone else's bandwidth, and someone else's cpu cycles.
> > 
> > They are reading this list and planning the changes already.
> > 
> > -- 
> > _____________________________________
> > John Andersen
> > 
> > 
> >
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