On Tue, November 14, 2006 19:21, Bill Moseley wrote:

>> Unless YOUR machine is bouncing them, your SA will not help. Spamcap is
>> usually the culprit and is being used by Yahoo.

ip is listed so:

Resolved 69.147.64.135 to n20c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com.
[n20c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com. has 1 MX record .(0)]

why hava a mx on a reverse dns ?, silly :-)

> Yes, it is my machine rejecting the mail that is flagged spam.
> And when I reject too many messages Yahoo's mailing list software
> considers my email non-working and stops delivering list messages.
>
> I guess I'm just curious how others deal with mailing lists.  I
> suspect just like any other mail -- if a message has a high enough
> spam score then reject it.

i whitelist with trusted_networks

> One problem is yahoo's machine is in spamcop, which might happen
> more often due to the volume of mail they send out.  So, I might want
> to reduce the score for mail that comes from any of the yahoo mail
> servers.  Although, I'm not clear how to know that the mail is from
> yahoo (or any other larger list provider).

spamcop should filter out maillist servers !

> For example, can I say ignore spamcop's report if the connecting
> server's reverse lookup includes "yahoo.com"?  Not sure how SA would
> know the connecting server (I'm running SA from an Exim4 ACL, by the
> way).

add ALL yahoo.com outgoing ip to trusted_networks in spamassassin solves it,
but who knows there ip's ?

> IIRC, the problem with Yahoo is that if you belong to, say, 20 lists
> and if one of those lists sends a lot of spam that gets rejected then
> your address is considered non-working resulting in all 20 lists
> stopping.

it have to be this way, since yahoo can not see if the mailbox is working or
just a spam checker that does not work :(

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