----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George R. Kasica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Lear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <users@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: SA 3.1.7 children hang but don't die


> >* George R. Kasica wrote (18/10/06 14:55):
> >> I'm noticing in 3.1.7 here that SA children are entering the K state
> >> but not disappearing from the proc list, leaving me with eventually
> >> many hung SA items and no running children as I hit the max child
> >> limit. I've NOT seen the behavior in 3.1.5 which I've gone back to as
> >> of last evening.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else noticed this and if so is there are cause/solution for
> >> it out there? What can I provide to help with the solution??
> >
> >I've been seeing this (or something similar) with 3.1.5, and I reported
> >it, with a similarly suspect subject line, a few days ago.
> OK. Well, assuming I don't end up in FBI custody for my poor choice of
> words.....
>
> >My best guess is that it's related to logrotate. I've added a spamd
> >restart (SIGHUP should do it) after logrotate runs, and I'm not seeing
> >the problem any more. But, since it occurs unpredictably, I may be
> >speaking too soon. There are a few bugzilla entries that might be
> >relevant. Eg http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4237
> >and http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4316
> I have one log rotate about 0400 here and a full restart of the mail
> system at 0500 every day to keep things happy and I'm seeing this
> later in the day say 9-10am so I don't think its log rotate related.
>
> Those bugs are not what I'm seeing, I'm seeing totally stuck in K
> state children that won't go away until you go out and start killing
> procs.
>
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Seeing the exact same thing here, running SA 3.1.7 on FreeBSD.  My logs
rotate once a day at midnight, and I can kill spamd and restart spamassassin
during the day and very quickly these "undead" processes start building up.
On my box it's definitely related to FuzzyOCR - I turn off FuzzyOCR and the
problem goes away.

The problem is I LOVE FuzzyOCR - it kills a lot of spam!  I will probably
try going back to SA 3.1.5 and see if that fixes it.

Sandy


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