>...
>From: "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Jamie L. Penman-Smithson wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 00:52:39 +0100:
>>
>>> After some research, I came to the conclusion that .de is, indeed,
>>> still broken:
>>>
>>> <ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3912.txt>
>>
>> And *where exactly* does this RFC say that the whois input and output must
>> behave in a different way than the .de input and output does now?
>>
>> Kai
>
>More to the point, Kai, in line with my earlier comment that RFCs are
>"Request For Comment" documents not standards, where does ANYTHING say
>that ANYONE MUST abide by them as if they were standards?
>
>Of course, NOTHING says a particular anti-spam tool cannot decide to
>use the formalisms from an RFC to build a filter mechanism, either. The
>RFCs are "good things". They just are not "mandatory things," yet.
>
>{^_-}
>
Actually Joanne, there is STD-1, which is exactly those RFCs which
have been adopted as "standards" (i.e. it is too late to make any "comments"
on their content). Though Kai won't like these - they *still* contain RFC954,
not RFC3912 and by that requirement DeNIC is completely in violation; RFC954
basically reads like a portion of the ICANN registrars agreement which governs
"unsponsored" TLDs - i.e. .aero, .arpa, .biz, .cat, .com, .coop, .edu, .info,
.int, .jobs, .mobi, .museum, .name, .net, .org, .pro, and .travel.
See:
http://rfc.net/std1.html
Of course, STD-1 is itself an RFC:) But the last accepted "standard"
for Whois is RFC954, everything later is largly attempts by DeNIC (and Chile)
to remove Whois entirely (and their lastest proposal is to do exactly that).
(Though it is clear that RFC3912 *will* become the "standard" in some later
version of STD-1 - but it isn't *yet*.)
Still none of any of these has the "weight of law" behind them except
for possibly the contractual element of the ICANN registrars agreement (but
ICANN has never really tried to do much to enforce that for most ill-behaving
registrars) and that would be civil law, not criminal; There are no net
police except the self-appointed ones (like every admin who uses a blacklist,
firewall blocks or even SA).
Paul Shupak
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