From: "Kelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mike Jackson wrote:
It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method.

The posters seem pretty clueful. Are there a lot of n00b lurkers?

Even that doesn't track. Assuming (and I realize this is a big assumption) the distribution of list management software is typical on the various lists I see, I would expect most "newbies" would not have encountered the "send a message to the list with 'unsubscribe' in the subject" type of interface.

Oh, wait.  I see directions like that in spam.

Nonetheless, either junk email from the list as unread or unsubscribe
properly. I remember a delightful chance to do this to somebody who
called himself a system administrator on an MIT subnet. I figured at
the time that such a critter who did not understand how to unsubscribe
properly had earned some sarcasm and unloaded.

A few people suggested I had gotten too rough on him. Others laughed.

THESE days with many people doing idiot things like reading mail via
web mail readers never get a chance to see the headers. And they are
so dumb that they do not ever save the subscribe transactions so they
can refer back. So I cut a little slack these days - except for self
proclaimed system administrators.

{^_-}

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