Matthew,

    This is the way list confirmation works with both Majordomo and Mailman.
I tell all my list opwners to make sure they turn on confirmation even if
the subscribe and unsubscribe functions are open to anyone.

    Confirmation elimates bad addresses.   The major problem comes from
people too lazy to unsubscribe from a list. They just hit the spam
button. AOL refuses to acknowledge that is happens. Even when they
were shown the e-mail that their member marked as spam.

    FYI I did just read that AOL will be keeping the current Whitelist
program; however, in that same press release they made it clear that
will be lowering the number of TOS messages that will cause an IP to
be blocked.

   For the skeptics here is the release. Please be sure to read it all
before accusing me of false information. This crap has been all over
the net since Feb 7th.

http://clickz.com/news/article.php/3583201

Regards,
Pete

> DAve wrote:
>> We have not chosen a course of action yet. It looks as if the only
>> *solution* is to not send any mail to AOL accounts. From a business
>> standpoint this is not acceptable. But, if AOL users will tag a
>> confirmation message as Spam, what's an admin to do?
>
> For an outside-the-box kind of approach... not seriously advocating this,
> but an interesting thought experiment...
>
> 1) Visitor goes to your site
> 2) Visitor fills out registration info including their email address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 3) User clicks "Register"
> 4) Your web server generates a one-time disposable-use email address such
> as:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 5) Your web server adds a row to a "Registrations awaiting confirmation"
> with these fields:
>
> Registrant: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Confirmation email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 6) Your web server gives the user the following instructions:
>
> "Two steps remaining.  To confirm your email address, please send us an
> email from your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account.  Send it to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- we will
> send you a reply with a link.  Click on that link, and your registration
> will be confirmed."
>
> 7) User sends an email
>
> From: aol-example.com
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 8) Your mail server receives the email and hands it off to some kind of
> mail processing script.
> 9) The mail processing script verifies the From: and To: against the
> "Registrations awaiting confirmation" table.
> 10) If they match, the mail processing script fires off a reply:
>
> "One final step remaining. Please click this link to verify your
> registration."
>
> If AOL complains about that reply, you pull up your logs and ask them "how
> could it be spam when THEY emailed ME first??"
>
> --
> Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com               805.964.4554 x902
> Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com       Software Engineer
>


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