Matt,

You are right, these are viruses being sent.  I have been working with
SA for about 6 months now, and I must say...originally I was confused
about the 'features' of SA, but have since learned that SA has nothing
to do with viruses.  I probably eluded to the idea that I was worried SA
wasn't scoring high enough; hence, making everything think that I felt
SA should give a higher score b/c of the virus attached, but that is not
what I was getting at.  You are also right that I need to send an email
out to the users, and let them know about the virus outbreak.  No
message has made it through without being tagged, so the servers are
working as they should.  I mainly sent out the email to see if others
were seeing an influx also.

Thanks for the information.  As always, if it were not for this active
mailing list, I would not be as knowledgeable as I am now...but I would
still be considered a "novice," much like what you and Julian have been
discussing on the MailScanner list.

Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:47 AM
To: Casey King; SpamAssassin Users
Subject: Re: New Spammer?


At 09:56 AM 11/22/2005, Casey King wrote:

>This morning we have been getting drilled by spam/virus emails.

Are they spam, or viruses? Not the same thing.

>40 so far.

I should be so lucky to see as few as 40/hour during any kind of
outbreak

>  Been getting a lot of phone calls from across the company about these
> emails.  At least my mailscanner boxes are stripping the files, and 
> tagging it as spam, but what worries me, is the low scores these
messages 
> are receiving.

SpamAssassin is a spam scanner. It's official policy is to EXPLICITLY
not 
care about virus emails. No effort is made to try to catch them, because

doing so would dilute the scores of the spam ruleset. No effort is made
to 
try to avoid tagging them either. They're just removed from the corpus
and 
handled by the developers as if they don't exist.

>I start tagging spam, at 3.5 so each message has been tagged, but still
>sent through.  Any one else seeing these emails?

I see plenty of viruses, and never give them a mind. My selective 
greylisting helps, but so far this morning my mailscanner still got 20
of 
them.

There was also a steep burst last Weds, 18 of them, which then leveled
off 
through the rest of the day.

*shrug*..  tell your users in a broadcast email that there is a virus 
outbreak, but to not be concerned unless they have a message that looks 
like a virus and isn't tagged. You might also want to include some
standard 
educational notes about viruses and their auto-sending, auto-forging
habits.

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