Gotcha Matt - thank you very much for the explaination. I was under the
(false) assumption that the AWL factor for a message was simply the
total score of all messages from that sender divided by the number of
messages from the sender. I didn't realize it was not just that number,
but that number compared to the actual score of the current message, and
the difference of that marks the final score for AWL. 

Thanks for the insight! I read the wiki on it but must have come away w/
the wrong impression. 

Thanks again!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Matthew Yette; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: AWL


At 08:22 AM 7/29/2005, Matthew Yette wrote:
>I've been getting emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] which my

>spam filter rightly tags as spam. However, the rules it flags are as
>follows:
>
>X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.7 required=5.0
>
>What troubles me is the AWL score.

It should not.

>  Pulling up stats on the email address
>from the AWL database, it has a count of 8 and a totalscore of 50.168. 
>Wouldn't this mean that the score it would assign the message for AWL 
>would be something like 6.1? Not a -0.6?

No. The total score is the TOTAL score.. not the AWL tracked average..

AWL total score 50.168:
AWL count: 8
AWL average: 6.271

Current score 6.7, thus the AWL should subtract, not add. Remember, the
AWL 
doesn't add it's score, it tries to split the difference between the 
historical average and the current message. Since the historical average
is 
less than the current score, it has to subtract.


In order to add +6.1, the AWL average would have to be 18.9, which it
isn't.


Besides.. you should NOT be troubled by negative AWL scores on spam.
This 
is *completely* normal and does NOT mean the AWL thinks the message is 
nonspam.. In this case, the AWL still felt the message was spam, as the
AWL 
average score is 6.2.

Read:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AwlWrongWay



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