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>List Mail User wrote:
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>> 
>>      Again, I apologize for any implied offense - none was intended.  (When
>> I mean to say bad things, I think that the archives will show I do not often
>> "mince" my words.)  I only meant to point out I didn't do a "thorough" check
>> because none seemed to be necessary (i.e. keystreams immediately looked to be
>> an upright and legitimate company).
>> 
>>      Sincerely,
>> 
>>      Paul Shupak
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>I have to admit, I was a bit shocked by your posting Paul. I've never seen you
>say anything as nice as:
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>       keystreams. com "seems" to be a legitimate hosting company
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>Coming from you, high praise indeed. :)
>
        Matt,

        I often defend people in private, but I admit I much more commonly
blast people in public.  You haven't seen the private defenses I've made
of known ROSKO spammers to various groups when I felt the wrong person or
organization was being blamed (though I do usually document who I think is
*really* responsible - usually another "well-known" spammer).

        There is a large difference between being not guilty and being
innocent.  I wanted to save Jeff et. al. any unneeded effort since indeed
keystreams did not even possibly qualify for SURBLs;  If ChrisS had said
exactly the same thing, I would have dug more, because of the possiblity
of being "grey", but from what I did dig up, I'm pretty certain I still
wouldn't have found anything "bad".

        The only reason for quotes around my use of seems, is that I do
make mistakes - but usually in the other direction (like when I got the
telco for Oslo Noway blacklisted for a day around the world - seems SBC
would/will not put through calls to prefix:10000000 - I didn't check well
enough and they have since changed their domain contacts to use a number
that can be called from North America).


        Paul Shupak
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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