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Steve Prior writes:
> My domain geekster.com has been Joe jobbed for the last couple
> of weeks.  In spite of the fact that I responsibly created SPF
> records for my domain, I am getting flooded with bounce messages
> from other mail systems that don't understand most spam from
> addresses are forged.  Fortunatly AOL seems to have wizened up
> since the last time this happened to me.
> 
> It seems to me that email domains that email such bounce messages
> or spam fighting techniques that send back a confirmation message
> are now part of the problem rather than the solution, but since
> the confirmation messages do shield THEIR users from spam they
> don't care what it's doing to the rest of us.  I'm wondering if
> a blacklist of known domains which send out stupid bounce messages
> or confirm emails would provide some incentive for cleaning them up.

A BL would probably be helpful -- but sadly some *really big* networks
(Earthlink's challenge-response) and companies (Fortune 500s) produce
these bounces, too, so it'd have serious FP potential, since those mail
relay IP addresses produce both the bounces and the legit mail.

There's a ruleset to catch bounces, challenges and bogus virus warnings;
Tim Jackson's bogus-virus-warnings.cf.  That's what I use (now heavily
modified locally).

We're also considering that it may be worthwhile to get some kind of
ruleset for these as an "official" builtin part of SpamAssassin; this'd be
optional, since it needs a little work on the user side to change from
simple 2-class ham/spam classification to multi-class
ham/spam/bogus-bounce/bogus-virus-warning/bogus-cr classification, but I
think it'd be very useful in many places.

- --j.
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