On 24-09-2024 16:10, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
TL;DR: Rather than using an in-band signal of a special reply value to queries from blocked users, as do other DNS-Based List operators, DNSWL.org sends back a "listed high" response to all queries. I was unaware

On 2024-09-24 at 04:18:06 UTC-0400 (Tue, 24 Sep 2024 10:18:06 +0200) Matthias Leisi <matth...@leisi.net> is rumored to have said:
Not to all queries. It is sent to resolvers who consistently go above the limits, sometimes for months and years after receiving the blocked response.

On 24.09.24 09:13, Bill Cole wrote:
I don't see how that's significant. The documented policy is directly and intentionally harmful to users.

I understand this case as "abusers" instead of users.

Doing that is a legitimate choice by a reputation service, but it's not one SA can endorse. The fact that it is enforced by whim rather than mechanically is not a positive factor.

Is there any possibility to detect clients using open DNS, perhaps other than RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS ?

Then, block all dnsbl/rhsbl rules?


Adding to ideas:

it might be helpful to have a way to trigger messages to syslog from a rule. Filling syslog with messages about blocked queries might be a better incentive/attention-grabber for ignorant/uninformed sysadmins to resolve DNS related issues than a non-scoring hit in the message headers.

Kind regards,
Tom

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