Henrik K <h...@hege.li> writes: > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 07:12:35AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Henrik K <h...@hege.li> writes: >> >> > From what I've seen, it's very uncommon to use this format. Why rely on >> > some vague previously defined score, which can change at any time? Just >> > set >> > a static score you like and fits your system. >> >> It's not vague; it's the score which is defined by the distributed >> rules. >> >> My intent is to say that I want 1 point more than what the rules say, >> and I mean that to float with rule changes. > > It _is_ vague. It's either an educated static score the developer gave, or > a corpus generated score, both which might not reflect your personal > mailflow at all.
It seems we disagree what vague means; I think it means that it lacks a precise meaning, and I find "the score that spamassassin would assign before I try to change it" to be precise, even if that might change with a rule update. But in general we believe that users using the score in an updated ruleset is a good thing; that's they the scores were changed. Of course distributed scores might not fit my own mail. But that's true of all people, all the time and it isn't specially true because I want to adjust one. >> Perhaps you are arguing that all uses of () are confused and thus we >> should lean to removing that facility. > > I just think it's much more common to create meta that checks if the rule > you are interested in hit, and add to scoring that way. Yes I realize by > that logic things are vague as well, *shrug*. But if you use a non-common > method, it's possible that there are bugs and strangness as we now found > out. It might be more common, but it's very surprising to me, because the manual page documents that () works, even if it technically leaves out default scores. I've been adjusting scores this way for years and this is the first time I hit a rule with an implicit 1. And, a user that is not authorized to create rules can adjust scores, but can't create meta rules. Yes, I realize that such a user can just set the score to 2, instead of (1).
