> On Jul 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Kris Deugau <kdeu...@vianet.ca> wrote:
> 
> Charles Sprickman wrote:
>> That’s unrealistic. Many ISPs these days that aren’t the “big boys” with 
>> dedicated staff for every facet of ISP operations, they are one and two man 
>> shops running WISPs in rural areas or developing countries. It’s not the 
>> 90’s anymore. It’s a terrible default, even home users should have to take 
>> an effort to enable a commercial service.
> 
> I'm baffled by how a "one or two man shop [W]ISP" can have an in-house email 
> system that generates more queries than the free limits unless you're 
> outsourcing nearly everything else including DNS caching.  (At which point, 
> why are you not outsourcing your mail service and spam filtering too?)  From 
> personal experience, a provider of that size likely has less than 1000 
> customers, which should match to mail flow well under the free limit.
> 
> I started work for one such small ISP in 2001 with ~2600 users at peak 
> (granted, the spam landscape was quite different then), and when that company 
> got taken over by a larger company in 2003, moved on to maintaining the spam 
> filtering for that larger company.
> 
> In that position we still weren't crossing the free query limits for a while, 
> at ~40K users.  None of the five or six other small mail systems I've had 
> some hand in integrating have come close to the free limits, and several of 
> those providers have had ~10-15 full-time staff.  All of them *have* had 
> local caching, even if it was built into some nightmare black-box mail 
> appliance horror, or Microsoft's DNS cache from Windows Server 2003 (or 
> possibly older, only got involved in the fringes of that one).
> 
> It's not impossible, I'll grant (one guy I knew of a year or two ahead in 
> university was - in 1997 or so - getting IIRC more than ~5K spams daily, 
> personally), but I'd call it extremely rare even today.

The letter I got was for an ISP that has less than 1,000 mailboxes and queries 
two local, caching resolvers.

C

> 
> -kgd

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