On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:53 -0400, Kris Deugau wrote:

> This WILL HAPPEN if you rely entirely on static rules - spammers adjust
> their tactics to avoid those rules.  That's why dynamic rules or systems
> such as Bayes and SURBL are so important.

I religiously feed false negatives back into Bayes. I've a cron job
that's polling a special folder in my IMAP account (i wrote a Perl
script based on a CPAN IMAP module) and i just drag the spam there and
forget about it.

> The most common detail in most other reports like yours (you don't say
> much beyond "It's broke.  Fix it.")

Increasing number of false negatives.

> is that spam is hitting BAYES_99....
> and nothing else.  In 2.6x, this wasn't a problem, BAYES_99 scored over
> the threshold of 5 in the default setup, and spam would be correctly
> tagged in that case.  With 3.x, the BAYES_nn scores have been rather
> reduced, and a number of people have reported good results from just
> copying the 2.64 BAYES_nn scores.

So what is the reason why BAYES_99 is scored so low?

> I'm a little puzzled what you're asking for, then;  addon rulesets are
> available from SARE, and somewhere there's a tool to automatically check
> for updates on those rules.

My impression, after a quick perusal, was that any mentions about SARE
and the like are pretty well "hidden" on the SA main website.
Yes, there is a mention, but there's a big fat "Use at your own risk"
warning at the top of the page. What would a new user think?

> If you're really not interested in tweaking your SA setup

<sigh>

I've a fairly demanding job, i've a few pretty convoluted personal
projects i'm involved in, i've a family and other details that typically
show up if one is not an archetypal pale-faced geek-in-the-basement.
I do try to take care of my personal webserver (to which i'm the sole
admin), mailserver (SA, Postfix, Cyrus, Squirrelmail), VoIP PBX, etc.,
despite the schedule overload.

And these days i was looking at SA and i'm, like, "it's not gonna
happen, i don't have time for this." I chose to play the dumb user on
purpose, just because i can't fix everything myself.

I do apologize for not reporting the actual nature of the problem.

-- 
Florin Andrei

http://florin.myip.org/

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