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On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 06:07:23 -0700
"@lbutlr" <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On 14 Feb 2019, at 19:31, Grant Taylor <gtay...@tnetconsulting.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > If VFE had backups stored off-site via something like Amazon Glacier
> > with no normal in-band connectivity between the main systems and the
> > backups, and the hacker went out of their way to delete the backups,
> > I don't think I could hold /that/ against VFE.  
> 
> I believe that when you hold customer data you have an obligation to
> have backups that cannot be deterred by accessing your systems. There
> are many possible ways to do this, from a rsync process on another
> machine that your network has no write access to that is able to login
> and do a backup, all the way up to services like backblaze or Arq that
> will (or can) keep differential backups for you.
<snip>

You mean like this?
rsync -cav --delete /current-empty-part s...@backup.com/very-safe-backup
:)

These things need more thought. And no, a purposeful attack could
overcome even Kevin. His servers could fall to the attack that took
vfemail. The guy said that passwords and exploits of some sort were used.
A root password to where the VMs are hosted and backed up would be
critical.
Unless you're doing something clever, Kevin.

Sincerely,
David
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