On 01/01/2018 01:30 PM, Alan Hodgson wrote:
On Mon, 2018-01-01 at 10:29 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
On 1 Jan 2018, at 9:59 (-0500), David Jones wrote:

I think some mail systems will keep the same message-ID per email thread so your system must reject some replies.


I have not seen such behavior in the past 20 years...

Intentionally re-using another site's MIDs is so wrong that I'd happily
make it break hard.

HOWEVER, the idea of enforcing any standard on MIDs beyond gross format
(e.g.: <[[:ascii:]]{3,996}>) on a system where the admin isn't the sole
user is ludicrous.

I've had good success junking anything with one of my domains in the message-id, where I know the mail isn't actually from someone in that domain. That's a pretty solid spam signature.


I too have seen spam with my own domain in the Message-ID but I combined it with a meta rule of !ALL_TRUSTED to be safe. You are correct. This is a good indicator of spam but each person is going to have to create this local rule unless someone wants to write a plugin that can detect this dynamically.

Lack of any message-id is also significant, but sadly there are still some real senders sending mail with no message-id.

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David Jones

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