There are bugtrack entries for the ALL_TRUSTED problem that you are
describing.  On my own network we were seeing all spam hit with -3.3 on
ALL_TRUSTED.  We are using SA on Postfix as a "man in the middle" relay from
our AV to our main mail server.

MAIL <--> Postfix+SA <--> AV <--> Inernet

The current theory is that the headers coming from the AV server are
triggering the ALL_TRUSTED rule to fire.  This may or may not be related to
other bagtrack entries for ALL_TRUSTED.  Maybe one of the developers could
address this better.

In the mean time it is easy to just leave the ALL_TRUSTED 0 in your local.cf

Ray Dzek
Network Operations Supervisor
Specialized Bicycle Components

-----Original Message-----
From: Potato Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:31 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: SPF, ALL_TRUSTED Confusion was RE: Default SURBL scores low?


Thank you everyone for your input and for directing me to the real problem
-- SPF. For now, I have had to score ALL_TRUSTED -0.01 but would still like
to get to the bottom of this SPF, TRUSTED issue.

I have a spam which hits ALL_TRUSTED. I've attached the "spamassassin -D <
spam" output below. I've excerpted some of the relevant SPF output:
        debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Trusted: [ ip=80.110.248.122
rdns=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at
helo=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at by=dbox.jline.com ident=
envfrom= intl=0 id=1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ ]
        debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted: 
        debug: all '*From' addrs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        debug: SPF: message was delivered entirely via trusted relays, not
required

>>From my limited understanding of SPF, the relay should be an UNTRUSTED
server.
# dig frontier.net txt
==> 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
frontier.net.           26222   IN      TXT     "v=spf1
ip4:66.118.220.14 ip4:66.118.220.16 ip4:66.118.193.229 -all"

However, the sending MTA is ip=80.110.248.122
rdns=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at which is not listed in the SPF
txt block. "-all" should make the SPF test fail.

Does anyone with a better eye than I, see the problem?

Jae

# spamassassin -D < myspam
debug: SpamAssassin version 3.0.0
debug: Score set 0 chosen.
debug: running in taint mode? yes
debug: Running in taint mode, removing unsafe env vars, and resetting PATH
debug: PATH included '/home/BLOCK/bin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/local/bin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/bin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/bin', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/bin/X11', keeping.
debug: PATH included '/usr/games', keeping.
debug: Final PATH set to:
/home/BLOCK/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
debug: using "/etc/spamassassin/init.pre" for site rules init.pre
debug: config: read file /etc/spamassassin/init.pre
debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_es.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
debug: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/65_debian.cf
debug: using "/etc/spamassassin" for site rules dir
debug: config: read file /etc/spamassassin/local.cf
debug: using "/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin" for user state dir
debug: using "/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/user_prefs" for user prefs file
debug: config: read file /home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/user_prefs
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x8c121bc)
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF from @INC
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4)
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
implements 'parse_config'
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x8c121bc)
implements 'parse_config'
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
inhibited further callbacks
debug: using "/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin" for user state dir
debug: bayes: 24567 tie-ing to DB file R/O
/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
debug: bayes: 24567 tie-ing to DB file R/O
/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
debug: bayes: found bayes db version 3
debug: using "/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin" for user state dir
debug: Score set 3 chosen.
debug: received-header: parsed as [ ip=80.110.248.122
rdns=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at
helo=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at by=dbox.jline.com ident=
envfrom= intl=0 id=1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ ]
debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
debug: Net::DNS version: 0.48
debug: trying (3) doubleclick.com...
debug: looking up NS for 'doubleclick.com'
debug: NS lookup of doubleclick.com succeeded => Dns available (set
dns_available to hardcode)
debug: is DNS available? 1
debug: looking up A records for 'dbox.jline.com'
debug: A records for 'dbox.jline.com': 192.168.9.4
debug: looking up A records for 'dbox.jline.com'
debug: A records for 'dbox.jline.com': 192.168.9.4
debug: received-header: 'by' dbox.jline.com has reserved IP 192.168.9.4
debug: received-header: 'by' dbox.jline.com has no public IPs
debug: received-header: relay 80.110.248.122 trusted? yes internal? no
debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Trusted: [ ip=80.110.248.122
rdns=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at
helo=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at by=dbox.jline.com ident=
envfrom= intl=0 id=1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ ]
debug: metadata: X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted: 
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
implements 'parsed_metadata'
debug: ---- MIME PARSER START ----
debug: main message type: multipart/alternative
debug: parsing multipart, got boundary: --4671406479602045
debug: found part of type text/plain, boundary: --4671406479602045
debug: parsing normal part
debug: added part, type: text/plain
debug: found part of type text/html, boundary: --4671406479602045
debug: parsing normal part
debug: added part, type: text/html
debug: ---- MIME PARSER END ----
debug: decoding: other encoding type (8bit), ignoring
debug: decoding: other encoding type (8bit), ignoring
debug: uri found: http://www.accountrepetition.co.nz.zinkuq.com/0/p/
debug: uri found: http://www.hungrybeen.co.nz.zinkuq.com/0/c.html
debug: URIDNSBL: domains to query: nz.zinkuq.com
debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
debug: Net::DNS version: 0.48
debug: all '*From' addrs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug: Running tests for priority: 0
debug: running header regexp tests; score so far=0
debug: registering glue method for check_uridnsbl
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648))
debug: registering glue method for check_hashcash_double_spend
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x8c121bc))
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_helo_pass
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: SPF: message was delivered entirely via trusted relays, not required
debug: registering glue method for check_hashcash_value
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0x8c121bc))
debug: all '*To' addrs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_softfail
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: SPF: message was delivered entirely via trusted relays, not required
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_pass
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_helo_softfail
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_fail
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: registering glue method for check_for_spf_helo_fail
(Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0x8bf0fc4))
debug: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=4.129
debug: running uri tests; score so far=4.129
debug: bayes corpus size: nspam = 13077, nham = 2556
debug: tokenize: header tokens for To = "U*BLOCK D*jline.com D*com"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *F = "U*vylcs60teqrr D*frontier.net
D*net"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *R = "U*vylcs60teqrr D*frontier.net
D*net"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *M = " 9l41c1igw74f6xpymv3s73vylcs60teqrr
frontier net "
debug: tokenize: header tokens for MIME-Version = " "
debug: tokenize: header tokens for X-MimeOLE = " Produced By Microsoft
MimeOLE V6.00.6488.4426"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *c = " multipart/alternative;   --
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *RT = " [ ip=80.110.248.122
rdns=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at
helo=chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at by=dbox.jline.com ident=
envfrom= intl=0 id=1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ ]"
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *RU = " "
debug: tokenize: header tokens for *r = "
chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at ([80.110.248 ip*80.110.248.122
]) by dbox.jline.com   smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "
debug: bayes token 'mins' => 0.998560747663551
debug: bayes token 'softwares' => 0.998514469453376
debug: bayes token 'SystemWorks' => 0.99841237113402
debug: bayes token 'Autodesk' => 0.998295202952029
debug: bayes token 'Softwares' => 0.998082987551867
debug: bayes token 'PowerQuest' => 0.998082987551867
debug: bayes token 'corel' => 0.997909502262443
debug: bayes token 'L0W' => 0.997909502262443
debug: bayes token 'Dreamweaver' => 0.997810426540284
debug: bayes token 'Multilanguage' => 0.997701492537313
debug: bayes token 'Cakewalk' => 0.997581151832461
debug: bayes token 'Wind0ws' => 0.997581151832461
debug: bayes token '299.00' => 0.997447513812155
debug: bayes token '0EM' => 0.997447513812155
debug: bayes token 'AutoCAD' => 0.997298245614035
debug: bayes token 'ware' => 0.997298245614035
debug: bayes token '7.01' => 0.997130434782609
debug: bayes token 'priice' => 0.997130434782609
debug: bayes token '50.00' => 0.996940397350993
debug: bayes token 'priicce' => 0.996473282442748
debug: bayes token 'Ulead' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'ProCoder' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Winfax' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Sonar' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'OmniPage' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Canopus' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'PTC' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Impression' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Datecode' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'Wavefront' => 0.996181818181818
debug: bayes token 'ce!' => 0.995837837837838
debug: bayes token 'WIND0WS' => 0.995425742574258
debug: bayes token 'Superfast' => 0.995425742574258
debug: bayes token '20.00' => 0.995425742574258
debug: bayes token '100mbits' => 0.995425742574258
debug: bayes token '25.00' => 0.995425742574258
debug: bayes token 'cosst' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'Plz' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'wares' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'bcos' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'Visio' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'W1ND0WS' => 0.994923076923077
debug: bayes token 'so0ftware' => 0.994296296296296
debug: bayes token 'Micros0ft' => 0.994296296296296
debug: bayes token '30.00' => 0.994296296296296
debug: bayes token 'Priice' => 0.994296296296296
debug: bayes token 'prricee' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '93.00' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'nort0n' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '254.00' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'Priicce' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '10.03' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'prri' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'savviing' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'sofftwaree' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'soffttwares' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'PhotooShop' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'adobbe' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'Adobbe' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '32.00' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '36.00' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'Nort0n' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'buuyy' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'sofftwaares' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '55.00' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token '2003451' => 0.993492957746479
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:rdns' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:intl' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:ident' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:envfrom' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:helo' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'H*RT:dbox.jline.com' => 0.00754196168004105
debug: bayes token 'dragon' => 0.992426229508197
debug: bayes token '6.0' => 0.992426229508197
debug: bayes token 'deluxe' => 0.990941176470588
debug: bayes token 'off' => 0.990941176470588
debug: bayes token 'H*Ad:D*net' => 0.00907615784446917
debug: bayes token 'scissors' => 0.988731707317073
debug: bayes token '2500' => 0.988731707317073
debug: bayes token '60' => 0.988731707317073
debug: bayes token 'l0w' => 0.985096774193548
debug: bayes token '3200' => 0.020524722791767
debug: bayes token '2.2' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'dreamweaver' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'Interface' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'Graphic' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'pinnacle' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'autodesk' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'producer' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'maya' => 0.978
debug: bayes token '5000' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'naturally' => 0.978
debug: bayes token '4000' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'Provide' => 0.978
debug: bayes token '22' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'UD:zinkuq.com' => 0.978
debug: bayes token '25400' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'autocad' => 0.978
debug: bayes token 'systemworks' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'micros0ft' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'UD:co.nz.zinkuq.com' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'ptc' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '1003' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'ulead' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '850' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '9300' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'wind0ws' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'canopus' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'plz' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'visio' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'powerquest' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'v70' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Architectural' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Engineer' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Multilingual' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'UD:nz.zinkuq.com' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'sp1' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'ce' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'photooshop' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'w1nd0ws' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'wavefront' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'chtml' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'omnipage' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '0em' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'winfax' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '29900' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'datecode' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'superfast' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Pinnacle' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Naturally' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'expired' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '701' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '3600' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Architects' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Genuine' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'cakewalk' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'UD:c.html' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'So0ftware' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'procoder' => 0.958
debug: bayes token '70' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'antivirus' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Dragon' => 0.958
debug: bayes token 'Corel' => 0.953146548200845
debug: bayes token 'Draw' => 0.95228037031145
debug: bayes token 'Original' => 0.051052271385826
debug: bayes token 'multilanguage' => 0.0562234573619474
debug: bayes token '2.0' => 0.0592724126378686
debug: bayes token 'multilingual' => 0.0727974133628909
debug: bayes token 'seize' => 0.0727974133628909
debug: bayes token '5.0' => 0.0739317899952465
debug: bayes token 'Antivirus' => 0.92538090034033
debug: bayes: score = 1
debug: bayes: 24567 untie-ing
debug: bayes: 24567 untie-ing db_toks
debug: bayes: 24567 untie-ing db_seen
debug: madiff: left: 242, orig: 242, max-difference: 100.00%
debug: Razor2 is not available
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
implements 'check_tick'
debug: URIDNSBL: query for nz.zinkuq.com took 0 seconds to look up
(multi.surbl.org.:nz.zinkuq.com)
debug: URIDNSBL: queries completed: 2 started: 0
debug: URIDNSBL: queries active:  at Fri Oct 15 09:05:09 2004
debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=6.254
debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=6.254
debug: Razor2 is not available
debug: Current PATH is:
/home/BLOCK/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
debug: Pyzor is not available: pyzor not found
debug: DCCifd is not available: no r/w dccifd socket found.
debug: DCC is not available: no executable dccproc found.
debug: Running tests for priority: 500
debug: RBL: success for 6 of 6 queries
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0x8575648)
implements 'check_post_dnsbl'
debug: running meta tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running header regexp tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running uri tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=15.21
debug: Running tests for priority: 1000
debug: running meta tests; score so far=15.21
debug: running header regexp tests; score so far=15.21
debug: using "/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin" for user state dir
debug: lock: 24567 created
/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.dbox.jline.com.24567
debug: lock: 24567 trying to get lock on
/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist with 0 retries
debug: lock: 24567 link to
/home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock: link ok
debug: Tie-ing to DB file R/W in /home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist
debug: auto-whitelist (db-based): [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ip=80.110
scores 1/12.108
debug: AWL active, pre-score: 15.21, autolearn score: 15.21, mean: 12.108,
IP: 80.110.248.122
debug: add_score: New count: 2, new totscore: 27.318
debug: DB addr list: untie-ing and unlocking.
debug: DB addr list: file locked, breaking lock.
debug: unlock: 24567 unlink /home/BLOCK/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock
debug: Post AWL score: 13.659
debug: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=13.659
debug: running uri tests; score so far=13.659
debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=13.659
debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=13.659
debug: auto-learn: currently using scoreset 3, recomputing score based on
scoreset 1.
debug: auto-learn: message score: 13.659, computed score for autolearn:
13.036
debug: auto-learn? ham=0.1, spam=12, body-points=8.816, head-points=11.288,
learned-points=1.886
debug: auto-learn? yes, spam (13.036 > 12)
debug: Learning Spam
debug: all '*From' addrs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 01 11:12:32 2004
Received: from localhost by dbox.jline.com
        with SpamAssassin (version 3.0.0);
        Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:05:10 -0700
From: "Risa Ignacia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *SPAM(13.7)* We Provide 96% Off Retail Priice For Softwares years 
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:13:38 -0500
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on dbox.jline.com
X-Spam-Level: *************
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=13.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_99,
        HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_NONELEMENT_00_10,
        HTML_SHOUTING3,MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS,MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_IN_DSBL,
        RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=spam 
        version=3.0.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_416FF536.26643AE7"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------------=_416FF536.26643AE7
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Spam detection software, running on the system "dbox.jline.com", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message has
been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar
future email.  If you have any questions, see the administrator of that
system for details.

Content preview:  committee concentrate seize scissors national every
  according away maam wrong parallel hat means favorite however share
  Your needed soffttwares at Rock Bottom prri ce! - What you bought
  previously was go to shop & buuyy a WIND0WS XP Pro that comes with a
  BOX & serial number & the manual cosst 299.00 [...] 

Content analysis details:   (13.7 points, 5.0 required)

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---- ----------------------
--------------------------------------------------
 4.1 MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS   Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
-0.0 ALL_TRUSTED            Did not pass through any untrusted hosts
 0.0 HTML_30_40             BODY: Message is 30% to 40% HTML
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 0.1 HTML_FONT_BIG          BODY: HTML tag for a big font size
 0.1 MPART_ALT_DIFF         BODY: HTML and text parts are different
 0.0 HTML_SHOUTING3         BODY: HTML has very strong "shouting" markup
 0.0 HTML_NONELEMENT_00_10  BODY: 0% to 10% of HTML elements are
non-standard
 1.9 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to
100%
                            [score: 1.0000]
 2.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL      RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP
address
                            [80.110.248.122 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
 3.8 RCVD_IN_DSBL           RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org
                            [<http://dsbl.org/listing?80.110.248.122>]
 3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL            RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
                            [80.110.248.122 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
 0.1 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL      RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP
                            [80.110.248.122 listed in combined.njabl.org]
-1.6 AWL                    AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list

The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to
open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or
confirm that your address can receive spam.  If you wish to view it, it may
be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor.


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Content-Description: original message before SpamAssassin
Content-Disposition: attachment
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Received: from chello080110248122.118.11.vie.surfer.at
([80.110.248.122])
        by dbox.jline.com with smtp (Exim 4.34)
        id 1CDRsz-0001DQ-LQ
        for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:12:09 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Risa Ignacia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Risa Ignacia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:13:38 -0500
Subject: We Provide 96% Off Retail Priice For Softwares years 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.6488.4426
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="--4671406479602045"

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parallel hat means favorite however share 

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<html>
<head>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:45 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Default SURBL scores low?


On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Potato Chip wrote:
> -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Most of these unmarked spams hit ALL_TRUSTED with a
> default score of -3.3. It almost completely discounts the SURBL score 
> hits.

If you're getting ALL_TRUSTED hits on messages that came from the outside
through a non-trusted server, then something it up there.  The reports I've
seen about it so far are related to something like an anti-virus gateway not
adding in proper Received headers, passing the mail to SpamAssassin.

> Have most people changed the default SURBL scores to something more
> meaningful, higher? It seems worthy of a higher score given the great 
> reviews that SURBL has been getting?

SURBL is great, but it does get FPs.  If you don't mind that (and the
possibility of having SA FP the mail into the "spam" category), go ahead and
up the score. :)

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