----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > > Apache Software Foundation Announces SpamAssassin 3.0 Release
> >
> > Very sad that the Pyzor time-out issue never got resolved throughout the
> > pre-release/RC process, since I reported the time-out issue very early
on in
> > the pre-release process and consistently provided status via bugzilla
with
> > each new pre-release and RC:
> >
> > debug: Pyzor is available: /usr/local/bin/pyzor
> > debug: entering helper-app run mode
> > debug: leaving helper-app run mode
> > debug: Pyzor -> check timed out after 10 secs.
> >
> > If you are spanning SA from Amavisd-New, there is a work-around,
however, I
> > would have hoped that this would have gotten resolved before final SA
3.0
> > release, or that the devs would have at least acknowledged that this
release
> > broke Pyzor usage if using SA with Amavisd-New.
>
> None of the SpamAssassin devs use Amavisd-New, and the report didn't have
> enough information to develop a fix in time; in-depth data about the issue
> (and a partial fix) weren't provided until days before 3.0.0 was due to be
> released.
>
> Deciding what goes in and what doesn't is a tricky thing in every
> situation, and we decided that it was best to release 3.0.0 and get the
> fix in for 3.0.1 rather than delaying 3.0.0 further. We could have delayed
> 3.0.0 indefinitely until all known issues are closed.  but eventually you
> have to say "it's good *enough*".  It's a balance between perfection
> and time.  c'est la vie.

Again, some kind of mention of the failure would have been a nice
consideration instead of forcing people to find out on their own that
Amavisd-New/SA/Pyzor is broken with the release of SA 3.0.

Also, the work-around that Mark Martinec (Amavisd-New developer/maintainer)
provided via bugzilla on this issue (see bugzilla ID 3649 for bug history
and work-around), and that I confirmed resolved the issue, should have been
implemented for the SA 3.0 release until further work could have been done
on the issue leading up to the SA 3.0.1 release.

Bill

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