On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Arman Khalatyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just tested the new 4.2, looks new shiny UI, thanks. > > I would like to join to Jiris statement, ovirt should become more > stable, clean and useful. > The right or left clicks or UI designs, mobile friendly or not,those > futures are the secondary tasks for me. > For those who would like to manage the vms from the mobile devices > they can use mOvirt app. > I wish that the development team will concentrate on the main > advertised futures to make them stable. > as a user I wish that the following points can make it stronger: > - please make a ovirt as a FULL HA solution > - one of the weak points of the ovirt is a spm, this should go away in > the first point, not the right click one:). > This is a bit more complex than you assume. > - hosts management like a foreman, but without foreman. > This makes no sense whatsoever. We'd like to integrate with best of breed projects, not replace them. > - strong solution with a multirail HA storage > I'm not familiar with the term - can you expand on this? > - move hosts complete to disk-less infrastructure, easy to scale-up > Boot from SAN for example? > - scheduled backup solution integrated in the gui/api > Again, I assume a separate utility can probably do a better job. > - reasonable reports,( similar like dwd in 3.6) > Metrics are in the works with Elastic and Kibana. DWH is still there. > Most of the points are almost done, but we have always hire or there > half-solved problems. > Patches are welcome, of course. Y. > > > Greetings from Potsdam, > Arman. > > PS > an Ovirt user since 3.x > 8hosts >50Vms > 4hosts > 6VMS > 10G,IB,RDMA. > looking to deploy ovirt on a cluster environment on user demand. > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Jiří Sléžka <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 10/31/2017 06:57 PM, Oved Ourfali wrote: > >> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You > >> see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't > >> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline > >> (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application). > >> > >> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high > demand. > > > > I'm using right click time to time, but for me is much more important > > clean, simple and compatible UI. Especially if this means it will be > > possible to simple select and copy any text or log messages from UI. > > This is my biggest pain when interacting with manager. > > > > Cheers, Jiri > > > >> > >> Thanks for the feedback! > >> Oved > >> > >> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will > >> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but > >> I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease > >> of use on Desktop over Mobile! > >> > >> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > >>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release > >>> is now available for testing > >>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT > >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? > >>>>> Because, > >>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to > >>>>> interact with > >>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...) > >>>>> > >>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose. > >>>> > >>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why: > >>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while > >>>> its not 100% > >>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. > >>>> Mobile devices > >>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would > >>>> make no > >>>> sense. > >>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile > >>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day > >>> operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and > >>> manage their large environments. If having both options where you > >>> can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail > >>> should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock Trading > >>> interface or something you need that level or flexibility and > >>> mobility to do static things anytime anywhere. > >>> > >>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are > >>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because > >>> of a new trend or buzz stuff. > >>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will > >>> be for quite a while. > >>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of > >>>> ours and you > >>>> can do things like copy from the menu. > >>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the > >>>> buttons/kebab menu > >>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly > >>>> used actions as > >>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter > >>>> the interface. > >>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel > >>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu > >>>> because its > >>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that > >>>> was only > >>>> available in the right click menu. > >>>> > >>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move > >>>> or not. For > >>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it > >>>> back, it is > >>>> certainly possible we will put it back. > >>>> > >>>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster > >>>>>> and better > >>>>>> than before. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > >>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of > >>>>>>>> the First > >>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to > >>>>>>>> be used > >>>>>>>> in production. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to > ask > >>>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues > >>>>>>>> or bugs > >>>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2]. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. > This > >>>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one > >>>>>>>> thousand > >>>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity > >>>>>>>> fixes, on > >>>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> The Administration Portalhas been completely > >>>>>>>> redesigned using > >>>>>>>> Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application > >>>>>>>> design. > >>>>>>>> It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an > >>>>>>>> improved > >>>>>>>> user experience. > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users. > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been > >>>>>>>> added to the > >>>>>>>> New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal. > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open > >>>>>>>> vSwitch software > >>>>>>>> defined networking (SDN). > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU. > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common > >>>>>>>> administration tasks. > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check > >>>>>>>> out the > >>>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post > >>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/ > >>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le > >>>>>>>> architectures for: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade > >>>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Notes: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Additional Resources: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights: > >>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter: > >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ovirt > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog: > >>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/ > >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/> > >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/ > >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification= > oVirt <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt> > >>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification= > oVirt > >>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification= > oVirt>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/ > >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/> > >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/ > >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG > >>>>>>>> VIRTUALIZATION R&D > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <https://red.ht/sig> > >>>>>>>> TRIED. 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