On Nov 3, 2017 13:48, "FERNANDO FREDIANI" <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 for complete diskless hosts -1 for mobile usability over desktop :-) That was mentioned as one motivation, but as I've explained earlier it is definitely not the main one. Regards, Oved Regards Fernando On 02/11/2017 20:46, Arman Khalatyan wrote: > I just tested the new 4.2, looks new shiny UI, thanks. > > I would like to join to Jiris statement, ovirt should become more > stable, clean and useful. > The right or left clicks or UI designs, mobile friendly or not,those > futures are the secondary tasks for me. > For those who would like to manage the vms from the mobile devices > they can use mOvirt app. > I wish that the development team will concentrate on the main > advertised futures to make them stable. > as a user I wish that the following points can make it stronger: > - please make a ovirt as a FULL HA solution > - one of the weak points of the ovirt is a spm, this should go away in > the first point, not the right click one:). > - hosts management like a foreman, but without foreman. > - strong solution with a multirail HA storage > - move hosts complete to disk-less infrastructure, easy to scale-up > - scheduled backup solution integrated in the gui/api > - reasonable reports,( similar like dwd in 3.6) > Most of the points are almost done, but we have always hire or there > half-solved problems. > > > Greetings from Potsdam, > Arman. > > PS > an Ovirt user since 3.x > 8hosts >50Vms > 4hosts > 6VMS > 10G,IB,RDMA. > looking to deploy ovirt on a cluster environment on user demand. > > On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Jiří Sléžka <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 10/31/2017 06:57 PM, Oved Ourfali wrote: >> >>> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You >>> see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't >>> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline >>> (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application). >>> >>> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand. >>> >> I'm using right click time to time, but for me is much more important >> clean, simple and compatible UI. Especially if this means it will be >> possible to simple select and copy any text or log messages from UI. >> This is my biggest pain when interacting with manager. >> >> Cheers, Jiri >> >> Thanks for the feedback! >>> Oved >>> >>> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will >>> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but >>> I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease >>> of use on Desktop over Mobile! >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ------------- >>>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release >>>> is now available for testing >>>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote: >>>> >>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? >>>>>> Because, >>>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to >>>>>> interact with >>>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose. >>>>> >>>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why: >>>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while >>>>> its not 100% >>>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. >>>>> Mobile devices >>>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would >>>>> make no >>>>> sense. >>>>> >>>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile >>>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day >>>> operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and >>>> manage their large environments. If having both options where you >>>> can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail >>>> should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock Trading >>>> interface or something you need that level or flexibility and >>>> mobility to do static things anytime anywhere. >>>> >>>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are >>>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because >>>> of a new trend or buzz stuff. >>>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will >>>> be for quite a while. >>>> >>>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of >>>>> ours and you >>>>> can do things like copy from the menu. >>>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the >>>>> buttons/kebab menu >>>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly >>>>> used actions as >>>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter >>>>> the interface. >>>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel >>>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu >>>>> because its >>>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that >>>>> was only >>>>> available in the right click menu. >>>>> >>>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move >>>>> or not. For >>>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it >>>>> back, it is >>>>> certainly possible we will put it back. >>>>> >>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster >>>>>>> and better >>>>>>> than before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of >>>>>>>>> the First >>>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to >>>>>>>>> be used >>>>>>>>> in production. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to >>>>>>>>> ask >>>>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues >>>>>>>>> or bugs >>>>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one >>>>>>>>> thousand >>>>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity >>>>>>>>> fixes, on >>>>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> The Administration Portalhas been completely >>>>>>>>> redesigned using >>>>>>>>> Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application >>>>>>>>> design. >>>>>>>>> It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an >>>>>>>>> improved >>>>>>>>> user experience. >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users. >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been >>>>>>>>> added to the >>>>>>>>> New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal. >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open >>>>>>>>> vSwitch software >>>>>>>>> defined networking (SDN). >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU. >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common >>>>>>>>> administration tasks. >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check >>>>>>>>> out the >>>>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post >>>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/ >>>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le >>>>>>>>> architectures for: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade >>>>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Notes: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Additional Resources: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights: >>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter: >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ovirt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog: >>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/ >>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/ >>>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oV >>>>>>>>> irt <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oV >>>>>>>>> irt> >>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=o >>>>>>>>> Virt >>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=o >>>>>>>>> Virt>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/ >>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/> >>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/ >>>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG >>>>>>>>> VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://red.ht/sig> >>>>>>>>> TRIED. 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