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On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 5:29 AM Olle Olsson <redsky1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I find it amazing that after so many years, and so much effort spent on > implementations, the oo tools are still in what I would call "pre-release > testing stage". > > The main concern I have is that images cannot be handled reliably in oo > Writer. > > Modern documents are image heavy. Rarely we see text-only documents. And > often images are photographic. And sometimes many of them. Do take a look > at the main information dissemination medium of our time: the web. The web > has become a "multi media" medium, where it is so easy to create > image-heavy web objects (and where the behavior actually is predictable!) > > So what happens if you create an image-heavy oo Writer document? Well, the > images you painstakingly inserted , have later disappeared from your > document.! What is left there in the document, in front of your eyes, is a > placeholder that signals something like "read error" of "graphic cannot be > displayed". > > And there is no way to get information from the document about what that > inserted graphical object was, or where it came from. > > So in many respects, you have to create your document again, populating it > with the illustrations you want it to contain. And a day later, again > insert images ... ad nauseam. > > When this is the case, it is astonishing that people want to use oo Writer > for mission-critical tasks. > > I was nearly saying that one should avoid using oo Writer, because it is so > unreliable. But that would be incorrect. In my experience it *reliably* > loses most images you inserted. > > I guess that the official response to this complaint is that one should use > the tool in accordance with recommendations that are offered, like: > [Tutorial] Some useful hints on using images > <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=86682> > <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=86682> > > Well, if you read that text, it is obvious that there is no *guaranteed* > way to use the tool so that bad things do not happen. Rather, its tone is > rather something like "you might try this...", "If that does not work, try > that..." "disable automatic backup might improve the tool behavior..." etc. > > Judging from user comments in these forums, "lost image problems" are > wide-spread, and people are desperate to find a solution. > > Being a software implementer myself, my evaluation (at least of the Writer > tool; but if to some extent implementation is shared by other oo tools, > then they might be impacted too) is that the tool does not have a high > quality implementation. It cannot keep track of its own data > representations, and it cannot detect situations that might cause problems. > > If reliability and predictable behavior is something that should > characterize oo tools, then more effort should be spent on preventing bad > situations from occurring. Perhaps: > * If certain image formats should not be used, then do not allow such > objects to be inserted > * if certain sizes of objects should not be exceeded, then prevent such > objects from being inserted > * If one should not have auto backup enabled when using images, then force > the user to disable auto backup. > > As this is a forum for users, it would be interesting to hear from other > users if they feel that the way ooWriter (mis-)handles images is OK. > > Would they accept that behavior is they had to pay some monthly fee for > using ooWriter? Or is it the case that just because it is software free to > use (gratis), then nobody is allowed to have critical opinions about it? > > > /olle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
