Leon,

Many thanks for this tip.  Reviewing my AutoRecovery setting, I noticed it was 
set to update every 15 minutes.  I have tightened that to every 5 minutes.  
This may save me some real headaches in the event of a future crash.

Ron Tanguay

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Leon Zar <lee....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I believe it is even more important to configure the OO Preferences for
> "Save AutoRecovery Information".  In all the years I've used OO, I've never
> had a crash where OO was unable to recover up to, or very close to, the
> point of failure.  Since I do have a UPS, the crashes I have experienced
> are all due to failures of the OS or the application.  A UPS will not
> protect you from these failures, but in my experience the recovery
> information will.
> 
> Having said that, I imagine that it *may* be possible for a power outage
> that occurs while OO is saving the recovery info to corrupt the recovery
> info and prevent OO from restoring a file.  Not a likely event, but
> something to consider.
> 
> My $0.02.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:29 AM Thomas A. Panfil <tapan...@fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
> 
>> Steven,
>> 
>>      Your advice is perfect for a proper shutdown of a computer, BUT,
>> those good practices are PRECISELY what do not occur if a power outage
>> occurs while someone is using a computer which does not have a battery
>> backup.  Laptops have a built-in battery backup.  Desktop and tower
>> machines and workstations do not have integral battery backup so they
>> are subject to sudden improper shutdown.
>> 
>>      I am convinced that users of AOO should be advised to use an
>> external battery backup system for computers which do not have integral
>> battery backup.  This advice should be provided along with the
>> information about how to download and install AOO.  Users should be
>> given this advice BEFORE a catastrophe occurs.
>> 
>>      I've been reading essentially all of the OpenOffice, now Apache
>> Open Office, Users E-Mail.  It seems that a large proportion of serious
>> problems, from which recovery might be very difficult or impossible, are
>> attributed to improper, i.e. hasty, shut down.  That is exactly what
>> happens when AC Line power to a vulnerable computer is lost.
>> 
>> -- Tom Panfil
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/14/20 3:45 PM, Steven Ahlers wrote:
>>> Tom that’s an interesting idea. I would suggest an even more important
>> concept, practice good computer hygiene: before you leave your computer
>> save all documents, shut down all programs. Then if there is a power
>> failure no problem. I would recommend clearing out browser memory (history,
>> cookies, etc.) you can bookmark websites and use a password manager to
>> easily return to websites on restart.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Tom Panfil <tapan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello AOO Users & Advisors,
>>>> 
>>>> For years I've routinely read reports from Open Office Users about
>> various problems.  Many are generally attributed to having shut down one's
>> computer too quickly, before shut down processes have been completed.
>>>> 
>>>> I've used OO and AOO for many years, both on Windows based computers
>> and on MacBook Pros.  I've never experienced *this* type of problem.  I
>> attribute that good fortune to three things:
>>>> 
>>>> * Use of Uninterruptible Power Supplies with Desktop Computers.
>>>> * Use of Laptop Computers which have immunity to power loss due to
>>>>   their internal batteries.
>>>> * Very deliberate shut down processes:
>>>>     o Quit the Running Applications (at least all which involve my
>>>>       user data)
>>>>     o Log out of whatever LogIn Accounts have been in use (generally
>>>>       just one)
>>>>     o Shutdown the computer
>>>> 
>>>> I think that AC Power Failures which cause sudden shutdowns are the
>> cause of many AOO Problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Should the AOO Installation site STRONGLY recommend the use of
>> Uninterruptible power Supplies with non-laptop computers?
>>>> 
>>>> Users might be unhappy with paying for UPSes, but they are a small
>> expense relative to the pain of serious data loss and corruption of
>> profiles.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> *v/r,
>>>>                Tom Panfil
>>>>            eBureaucrat (Ret.)
>>>> ********************************************
>>>> Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR
>>>> drivers to identify their corporate sponsors
>>>> ********************************************
>>>> **m-2015-mbp-15******general_user*******fm** *
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