I believe it is even more important to configure the OO Preferences for
"Save AutoRecovery Information".  In all the years I've used OO, I've never
had a crash where OO was unable to recover up to, or very close to, the
point of failure.  Since I do have a UPS, the crashes I have experienced
are all due to failures of the OS or the application.  A UPS will not
protect you from these failures, but in my experience the recovery
information will.

Having said that, I imagine that it *may* be possible for a power outage
that occurs while OO is saving the recovery info to corrupt the recovery
info and prevent OO from restoring a file.  Not a likely event, but
something to consider.

My $0.02.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:29 AM Thomas A. Panfil <tapan...@fastmail.fm>
wrote:

> Steven,
>
>       Your advice is perfect for a proper shutdown of a computer, BUT,
> those good practices are PRECISELY what do not occur if a power outage
> occurs while someone is using a computer which does not have a battery
> backup.  Laptops have a built-in battery backup.  Desktop and tower
> machines and workstations do not have integral battery backup so they
> are subject to sudden improper shutdown.
>
>       I am convinced that users of AOO should be advised to use an
> external battery backup system for computers which do not have integral
> battery backup.  This advice should be provided along with the
> information about how to download and install AOO.  Users should be
> given this advice BEFORE a catastrophe occurs.
>
>       I've been reading essentially all of the OpenOffice, now Apache
> Open Office, Users E-Mail.  It seems that a large proportion of serious
> problems, from which recovery might be very difficult or impossible, are
> attributed to improper, i.e. hasty, shut down.  That is exactly what
> happens when AC Line power to a vulnerable computer is lost.
>
> -- Tom Panfil
>
>
> On 7/14/20 3:45 PM, Steven Ahlers wrote:
> > Tom that’s an interesting idea. I would suggest an even more important
> concept, practice good computer hygiene: before you leave your computer
> save all documents, shut down all programs. Then if there is a power
> failure no problem. I would recommend clearing out browser memory (history,
> cookies, etc.) you can bookmark websites and use a password manager to
> easily return to websites on restart.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Tom Panfil <tapan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello AOO Users & Advisors,
> >>
> >> For years I've routinely read reports from Open Office Users about
> various problems.  Many are generally attributed to having shut down one's
> computer too quickly, before shut down processes have been completed.
> >>
> >> I've used OO and AOO for many years, both on Windows based computers
> and on MacBook Pros.  I've never experienced *this* type of problem.  I
> attribute that good fortune to three things:
> >>
> >> * Use of Uninterruptible Power Supplies with Desktop Computers.
> >> * Use of Laptop Computers which have immunity to power loss due to
> >>    their internal batteries.
> >> * Very deliberate shut down processes:
> >>      o Quit the Running Applications (at least all which involve my
> >>        user data)
> >>      o Log out of whatever LogIn Accounts have been in use (generally
> >>        just one)
> >>      o Shutdown the computer
> >>
> >> I think that AC Power Failures which cause sudden shutdowns are the
> cause of many AOO Problems.
> >>
> >> Should the AOO Installation site STRONGLY recommend the use of
> Uninterruptible power Supplies with non-laptop computers?
> >>
> >> Users might be unhappy with paying for UPSes, but they are a small
> expense relative to the pain of serious data loss and corruption of
> profiles.
> >>
> >> --
> >> *v/r,
> >>                 Tom Panfil
> >>             eBureaucrat (Ret.)
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