Howdy, Tom
I am an elderly person in the category of being too old to be creating
web pages - a very nice gentleman created a template and is on the ready
if I run into major trouble such as the site crashing. This kind man
moved me from depending on Dreamweaver to editing code in a note pad
type product.
Back to OO - your explanation made sense until I saw the inability to
send from the remailer subscribed email address. When I subscribed to
the list, I didn't have options . . . clicked the link and I was added.
What does v/r mean?
What does IMHO mean?
Just saw someone is requesting a change of email address - doesn't that
require unsubscribing from the original email address then
re-subscribing with the new one? Darn, I just opened another can of worms.
Tom Panfil wrote:
Hi Tubular,
Well, I just inspected headers and see that I had fooled myself. My
original subscription request was:
Subject: Subscribe to OpenOffice Users Mailing List
Body: Hello, Subscribe tapan...@ieee.org
My reply to the "confirm subscribe to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org"
was:
Subject: Confirm Subscription to ooo-user Mailing List
Body: Hi, I do want to subscribe to the ooo-users mailing list,
BUT I would prefer that my mail be set to my
Reply-To Address: tapan...@ieee.org
Rather than to my From Address: tap.h...@verizon.net
The resulting WELCOME message said in part:
Acknowledgment: I have added the address
tap.h...@verizon.net
to the ooo-users mailing list.
Welcome to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org!
Please save this message so that you know the address you are
subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or
change your
subscription address.
So, my attempt to con the list server to use my IEEE Remailer address
failed.
It looks like people are not allowed to subscribe via their preferred
remailer addresses.
You must have actually been seeing people writing from ISP supplied
addresses other than the ISP provided addresses from which they
subscribed.
You must be right -- Maybe some others have been under the same
misconception which I just aired. Maybe this will help them.
v/r,
Tom
On 3/10/14 10:57 PM, Tubular wrote:
Thank you, Tom for the insight; however, if these people cannot send
email from these type of email addresses, how did they get on the
list to start with?
Tom Panfil wrote:
Hello OpenOffice Apache Moderators,
I don't want to unsubscribe from any of the three project lists to
which I subscribe (users, dev, api) but like you, I've seen too
many requests sent to the lists from people who want to
unsubscribe. I assume that something is finally done
administratively to unsubscribe their addresses since they
eventually stop pestering.
Many people who are members of ACM or IEEE or other professional
associations register using a Remailer Address serviced by the
organization. The use of a Remailer Address enables provision of at
least the following services by the organization:
* Virus scanning of mail sent to the member's "Remailer Address"
* Quarantining of S--- sent to the member's "Remailer Address" --
Note that I did not use the "S-Word" since using it might cause
Verizon refuse to send the message considering it to be S----.
* Forwarding of non-infected non-S--- messages to the member's ISP
provided addresses.
* Ease of changing of ISPs by simply registering a new ISP supplied
e-mail address with the Remailer Service so that mail sent to the
Remailer address is forwarded to the member's "new" current ISP
provided address. Correspondents need not be informed of the change
of ISP.
These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses. They can
and usually do include their preferred Remailer Address in the
Reply-To field of their message headers. Their e-mail messages are
sent from their ISP provided addresses.
So, I think that a significant proportion of those who send to the
list asking to be removed have tried sending to the address in the
footer of the messages and were not removed from the list since they
are subscribed with a Remailer Address. That address from which
they are send is different from the address which is subscribed
I recommend that some mechanism be established for such subscribers
to take action to be removed from OpenOffice Apache lists. The
instructions they need should be provided in the footer with the
other three instructions.
I can't imagine that *no* developers and maintainers of OpenOffice
know of Remailer Addresses. How could this problem have festered so
long? Does the project cadre really not know about Remailer
Addresses? If you can maintain Apache projects you must be able to
understand this dilemma now that I have explained it somewhat
clearly, I think.
Note that I am subscribed via an IEEE Remailer address.
I'd no doubt have the same problem which these other poor souls have
if I'd try to unsubscribe.
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