All it will take is for the moderators to step up and ensure that this list is fair, equitable, open to all; that people who post on this list will not be bullied or ravaged, no matter how "stupid" or simple the question.
As one of those who is keeping this issue alive, I fully understand how my advocacy and the advocacy of others may be interfering with the "normal" business of this list. However, the "normal" business of this list included people berating newbies, bullying people into submission and being quiet, and generally harassing anyone who dared to step into the ring and say "enough." Obviously, some of those people have gone after me and tried to bully me. What they do not realize is that I am "Unbulliable." I deal with much bigger monsters in the real world and routinely stand up to them as well. Hence, I am relentless. I am charging the moderators to do their jobs, for the people on this list to be civil, and for politeness and helpfulness to be qualities that are cultivated. I know that this is contrary to what is going on in the world, but I do know that there are good people out there. When I get a full list of all moderators and the names and emails of the people who choose moderators, I will take this offlist, as I have already done in some cases. But what I am hearing from the moderators is not positive as far as the list is concerned. And of note: I was told by one moderator that any challenges to the moderators as to their job performance should be done on-list. More mob rule, instead of ensuring the policies and rules are adhered to. Believe me, I, as all of us, have better things to do with my time. But I, as many of you, have an investment in using this product. (In my case I want to specify it as the software for all libraries, nationwide in the US to utilize for an ADA compliance project.) Those of us with an investment in this product, also have an investment in a safe, open environment in which to get help. THAT wasn't happening before I typed anything. That is why I posted. Asking questions and getting help doesn’t matter if you have to get bullied to get the help. If that happens, this listserv and the product itself is no better than Microsoft. And yes, the Federal government has guidelines about bullying. Regardless of the server this project is housed on, when emails go to US recipients, certain laws have to be followed. Brenda Hart Neihouse -----Original Message----- From: Jim Parkhurst [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Reminder on list policy Ya' know, all of this bantering has become LONG past being something to attempt to read. Please go to your respective corners and stop this nonsense. Or the list risks the possibility of losing lurkers - such as myself - to mindless bantering that has long since lost its appeal of anything relevant. Jim Parkhurst Jim.Parkhurst(at)TXDOT[dot]GOV Work Hours = 07:00-16:00 [Central] -----Original Message----- From: Think [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Reminder on list policy [email protected] https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08961.html http://slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/14.0/academic/convertall/convertall.SlackBuild John Berger, you already put your name on the internet. So you have already exercised that "prerogative." Why not be a human and put it on here? It would be one thing if you weren't attacking anyone. But here in the US, we have this thing about facing the people who are persecuting us. It's only bullies that hide. If you have nothing at stake, for instance your good name, you have no reason to behave yourself. And yes, I am all for people protecting their privacy ESPECIALLY if they are in a forum where people are hostile and bulling is de rigeur and acceptable. Brenda Hart Neihouse PS: about the "do as I say" comment: you have no idea if I do or do not do as I say. So that's an entirely false argument. If you want to know, you would have to talk to my daughter or any of the people I work with or work for. You might also talk to the people for whom I have advocacated. Right, you don't have access to any of those people. So you made an assumption from what data? Another personal attack. -----Original Message----- From: TN Patriot [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Reminder on list policy On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500 "Think" <[email protected]> wrote: > The fact that... You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone disagrees with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're one of those 'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing about law and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in any way you deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have - threats of censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you can scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been around people like you for a looooong time. By the way, that's *your* prerogative to be exposed to the world by putting your name out there on the internet, no one's accused you of being intelligent yet. Me, I don't put mine out there because it's unnecessary and I don't fall for baseless and petulent little barbs like that particular kind. Have you told *everyone* you e-mail, interact with on forums/websites, and any other way on the internet to expose their real names so anyone on the planet can get information about them, whether you like them or not? 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