Stating applicable law is not a threat, neither is the promise to engage in a 
certain (legal) action should a certain action be taken by someone else.

What I did is called free speech. And it is protected speech. Especially since 
I quoted law and policy.

It is the policy of all US ISP's to ban users who flame/harass/etc. other 
people via the ISP's resources, i.e. using email to flame someone.

There is also a federal law regarding harassment/bullying and using electronic 
resources to do so. I would have to look it up. But I am certain you can Google 
it.

So we have a FAIL from the moderators as far as what constitutes a threat. And 
we have a FAIL from the moderators for reading my verbiage about ensuring that 
I use all methods to protect myself on this listserv, and to protect my right 
to my free speech on this listserv, as a threat. So the moderators have now 
engaged in an inappropriate warning.

My warning someone that the law exists and that I will use it is most decidedly 
NOT a threat. You have just now chilled other people's free speech and their 
exercise of applicable law to protect themselves. (I said it twice in case 
someone missed it the first time.)

We also have a FAIL from the moderators as to them appropriately doing their 
job-- that is to keep people safe on this listserv, to ensure the rules are 
followed and to ensure that people know what the rules are. Oh, yeah and not 
acting in such a way as to "chill" protected speech. (I think that is number 
three, but in a slightly different context -- overall fail in doing their job.)

Brenda Hart Neihouse

PS: I would have commented earlier but I was busy doing advocacy work. You 
know, the part where you speak for a large group of people to make sure their 
civil rights are protected. Oh yeah, that's what I am doing here. And that is 
what I was doing in my initial email. Only the group on here isn't in the 
millions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 11:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Reminder on list policy

Speaking as a list moderator (yes we do have them) I'd like to remind
all posters that threats will not be tolerated on this list.

Regards, Rob

>> If you want to flame me, you might want to think again. Most of your ISP's 
>> have a policy of no spam/hate/scam/flame. I have reported people to their 
>> ISP's before and I will do it again. There is a difference between free 
>> speech and hate speech. Hate speech is not protected under the Constitution 
>> and your ISP's won't tolerate it either.i

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