> These installers and packages are provided by various NetBeans *committers* 
> as a convenience

Ah, yes--I had forgotten about that part!

So, yes, the community installers are in fact built by the same developers as 
NetBeans itself. It's just that we can't use the official "Apache" stamp on 
binaries that include OpenJDK.

-- Eirik

From: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2025 at 12:30 PM
To: Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com>
Cc: NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.org>, "josh.ba...@taylor.com" 
<josh.ba...@taylor.com>
Subject: Re: No Windows Installation Version.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 at 16:48, Eirik Bakke 
<eba...@ultorg.com.inva<mailto:eba...@ultorg.com.inva>lid> wrote:
It's a bit confusing, but the Apache NetBeans project now produces a single ZIP 
file distribution that is official and voted on, and then encourages other 
organizations to develop "community installers" that provide a more streamlined 
installation experience. The community installers can include all the various 
dependencies, which aren't always possible to bundle with official Apache 
binaries, for GPLv2 dependencies in particular.

In particular, the community installers can bundle the Java platform (OpenJDK), 
which is needed to run NetBeans.

You can safely use the community installer!

Thanks Eirik.

Can I just clarify something about "other organizations" in there.  We
do obviously encourage other people, Linux distros, Flatpak, etc. to
distribute Apache NetBeans.  At the same time, the wording on the
download pages for "community installers" has always had a specific
meaning (emphasis added) - "These installers and packages are provided
by various NetBeans *committers* as a convenience."

One reason for moving the existing community installers from my
company to the new foundation is to ease opening up access to any
other committers.  Committers are always welcome to distribute
packages and installers with different requirements too.  But I hope
we keep the restriction that community installers specifically refers
to installers provided by our community, our committers, that for one
reason or another (eg. Java runtime) cannot be provided directly via
Apache.

On the question of safety, another point I made on a question about
the macOS installers, was that the community and ASF installers were
built and signed on the same box by the same person for the last few
years!

Best wishes,

Neil

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