On 3/9/20 1:08 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 15:16, Paul Szudzik <pszud...@throwarock.com> wrote:
     I see streams of notes that are asking questions about compatibility.  ( 
The latest straw is the Ant image ... )  I see how once the major players in 
NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost impossible.  If you’re new to 
NetBeans, perhaps this is a good trend.  If you have dealt with NetBeans as 
long as I have.. it becomes more than just an annoyance.  It almost easier to 
find another IDE to settle in on, as the amount of work to transfer 100+ 
projects, probably more, from old NetBeans to new NetBeans is formidable.
Personally, I think you're putting the "blame" firmly in the wrong
place.  Java is changing, JavaFX is changing, build tools are evolving
- this is all for the better in my opinion, but it requires learning
new things.  And switching IDE will not change that, and will probably
make for even more annoyance.


Right. It isn't Netbeans fault, nor any other IDEs at this point.


Oracle, not Netbeans(who was previously the developers of Netbeans), are to blame for the removal of JavaFX. Oracle decided they wanted to downsize the JDK, breaking backwards compatibility in the process.


(Oracle/JDK developers will argue JavaFX was never apart of the JDK but this is just technical nonsense. Oracle JDK was *THE* JDK before Java 11)


Netbeans supports JavaFX just fine. You just include the libs like any other library.



As Emi has already mentioned, there are numerous ways of working the
old way, with a Java 8 JDK, possibly even with JavaFX bundled, for a
number of years yet (although that's maybe not much use if you like
what Gluon is doing).  None of the support for the older ways of
working have been removed from the IDE as far as I know.


You should be able to create a JDK build with JavaFX bundles, yes. It worked with JDK 11 at least. This won't help you running on other JDK/JRE installs though since those won't have it.


It is also possible to use Java 11's single source code runner to create a launcher that specifies JavaFX's modules and load them from a directory shipped with the application if you want.



To paraphrase your domain, maybe throw the rock elsewhere?! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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