For what it's worth, I've had problems switching from 8 to 11, too. But they've been minor glitches. But I barely know JavaFX and I don't use it at all, I've been quite satisfied with AWT/Swing for my purposes. I've used Eclipse and found it lacking. IntelliJ's good, but I don't need an IDE to auto-complete "try" or "val" for me. I've found parameter auto-complete in NetBeans to be generally much more helpful.
Also, I should note that I never did delete NetBeans 8.2 from my MacBook, even though I almost never used it after upgrading to 11.1. I figured other people were sure to have problems in the transition, and I think my luck is such that I too would have had problems if I had deleted 8.2. Al On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:13 PM Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Paul, many of us "feel your pain" with what Oracle did to JavaFX. But all > is not lost. Take a look here: http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/ > > Scroll down to the JavaFX section and click on the first item. You will > see how completely easy it is to develop JavaFX with Netbeans and Maven. > Of course, deployment is a different story but Gluon has some good > information about how to install JavaFX. Once installed, it's installed -- > until you want to upgrade to the next release and then it is also quite > simple. The main difference is defining the module path. > > It's a terrible shame all the big players have decided a browser is a > "good enough" interface for users. For those of us old enough to remember > how efficient a character interface was to get work done a browser will > just never be adequate. But, as you know, we can get pretty close to that > efficiency with either Swing or JavaFX. > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Paul Szudzik <pszud...@throwarock.com> > wrote: > >> I have been a NetBeans user since inception. I am retired now, but >> when I worked, I was one of the few people in my company that was an >> advocate of NetBeans, and used it instead of the company line, Eclipse >> product. >> >> Retired now for 10+ years, I used NetBeans to develop my products, >> and really getting involved in JavaFX big time. I love the cross platform >> capability, and use it on both Ubuntu and Windows. Raspberry Pi, no >> problem. Windows, no problem. I loved it. Then boom, Oracle takes JavaFX >> out of the mix, and NetBeans and I start having major problems. It gets >> harder and harder to use NetBeans with it’s incompatibility with JavaFX >> without going through hoops every single time we upgrade. I have a ton of >> projects that are a major pain to go back to without having to dance on a >> high wire to get to work. And I am still not sure I can do this anymore. >> >> I have been a computer programmer, designer and architect for well >> over 53+ years. I have see many systems come and go, many IDE rise and >> fall, many languages surface and crash. The move to Maven is beyond my >> scope now. I want to program, not to have to regenerate and rehash my >> build system every release. I have tried to move over to 11, and mostly >> failed. I have too many modules and programs in play to hack this out. >> >> It would have been great if NetBeans had a seamless transition , >> built in conversions for old projects to current format. Seriously, I >> would love to be on that train. But nope, it seems too much handholding >> and dancing. I currently have a half dozen active Beta’s that are stuck >> in a NetBeans 8.1.x / Java 8 scenario, that I want to port into NetBeans >> 11.3 / Java 13+ area, but really don’t believe that it is 1: Easy, 2: >> Lasting, 3: Enduring more than another release. >> >> I still have reported bugs > 5 years old that are not resolved. >> >> I see streams of notes that are asking questions about >> compatibility. ( The latest straw is the Ant image ... ) I see how once >> the major players in NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost >> impossible. If you’re new to NetBeans, perhaps this is a good trend. If >> you have dealt with NetBeans as long as I have.. it becomes more than just >> an annoyance. It almost easier to find another IDE to settle in on, as the >> amount of work to transfer 100+ projects, probably more, from old NetBeans >> to new NetBeans is formidable. >> >> Maybe a 3rd party can produce a product that 100% transfer old >> projects to Maven.. I’d rather develop and code than mess around with >> trying to make things move up the NetBeans chain anymore.. Coding is fun, >> transitioning is not. I am 100% committed to JavaFX, I like the layouts, I >> like what Gluon has done, I like the look and feel. >> >> NetBeans 8 –> NetBeans 11+ –> convert ... >> >> I would normally apologize for my rant, but nope. I feel that I am >> now progressing backwards... >> >> >> >> > -- Alonso del Arte Author at SmashWords.com <https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/AlonsoDelarte> Musician at ReverbNation.com <http://www.reverbnation.com/alonsodelarte>
