> They have a monopoly on office productivity apps (Word / Excel) but what > other desktop software products are these 'small businesses' buying?
PowerBI, Tableau, and Acrobat Pro come to mind. Other important desktop apps: Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere), music production (Digital Performer, Cubase, Logic, ProTools, Ableton, Sibelius, Finale), every big 3D game (e.g. Minecraft, a Java app bought by Microsoft for $2 billion), all the big IDEs, and all of the browsers themselves. Note also that the desktop Excel, Word, and PowerPoint apps recently got very good real-time collaboration features. This eliminates the main competitive advantage of Google Docs. Microsoft OneNote is also seeing a lot of development lately. -- Eirik -----Original Message----- From: Robert Erdt <rob.e...@charter.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 8:28 AM To: 'Emilian Bold' <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch>; 'Chuck Davis' <cjgun...@gmail.com> Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI Totally agree. Microsoft offers productivity products, only.. I am converting everything I use to Google apps. Look at EPIC (Healthcare Desktop Software) created in VB, total bomb.... We bought the product here and it blows. Now, look at Cerner, in java.... Need I say more.... BTW.. At GM, Gates said he wanted Microsoft in every vehicle... All we did is laugh..... Still laughing... LOL -----Original Message----- From: Emilian Bold [mailto:emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.INVALID] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 4:30 AM To: Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI What new desktop apps did Microsoft release in the past years? They have a monopoly on office productivity apps (Word / Excel) but what other desktop software products are these 'small businesses' buying? Small businesses may be the biggest employer but they are not the biggest software (desktop) developer employers. The data just doesn't show this: where are the successful products, the companies catering to small business, the jobs? --emi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 21 August 2018 12:09 AM, Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Microsoft will continue laughing all the way to the bank as long as they can > keep the Java crowd believing their desktop monopoly is just a niche market. > In the US small businesses are the largest employer segment and we live on a > desktop. More and more of them with larger and larger screens. Of course, > we also use browsers for web access and cell phones to talk with each other. > But we get our work done with a desktop client/server application for the > most part; and no, we don't want to have to try to get anything done with > something as crude as a browser interface. That should be more than apparent > from the recent rash of class action lawsuits that have been filed against > Oracle's attempt to force customers to a browser interface. We simply don't > want it in small businesses. Long live the niche!! > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:56 PM Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> wrote: > > > Both Swing and JavaFX are niche technologies, and I'd question the value of > > porting a large existing application from one to another. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
