Now there is a new alternative to systemd
 see RancherOS
I am actually surprised and puzzled by this!  I thought Fedora was bleeding 
edge* and was the pioneer of new technologies*  but now someone else is leading 
the init* technologies.

I don't see how.  It is not a new technology.  Running docker daemon as pid 1 
is a pretty specialized thing to do and if the goal is to run containers, 
Fedora is pushing Project Atomic in that space.

http://www.projectatomic.io [http://www.projectatomic.io] 

Rahul
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I did not know about this.  This is new stuff.  We actually do not know of many 
things that are happening.  We(The community does not know about many things 
that are happening); with regards to services, I still miss the old # chkconfig 
--list # chkconfig service off; etc.  

One question *may not be systemd related*, how come fedora after startup has 
300+ services running in the background?  How many of these services* are not 
needed?  Does it depend on which desktop one runs?  How can we bring this count 
down?   Maybe Tom H., has already answered this? and it flew past me?  

I see this on a Fedora 20 machine and I scratch my head, I wanted to ask before 
but did not have the nerve to ask,  I see this on other linux boxes and wonder 
how can I turn off stuff that I donț need/use even if it is with systemd new 
commands or syntax?  

I see that with system Administrators and for persons with years and years of 
experience, systemd is a pain, but for the casual user they may have gotten 
used to it, or left to another systemd free distro.  Reminds me of one quote in 
Mathematics by John Von Neuman ``Young man, in mathematics you don't understand 
things. You just get used to them.'' My best guess that systemd would be in 
that category.

Thank you for your input

Best Regards,


Antonio

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